Comments Thread For: George Foreman: Klischko Was Afraid To Engage Haye

[jbpanama]

He doesn't have any boxing knowledge outside of the K bros, and that is tainted by his man lust for them.

True Story, In the 1960's the Base Salery, in the NFL, and NBA, was about $10,000 per year; so The GREAT Big Atletes gravatated to the SweetScience, but with the BREAD to be made in these sports TODAY in America, Why would they choose BOXING???

[jbpanama]

I have more knowledge of boxing history than a regular sports fan, but unlike some poseurs on here I don't mind admitting that I don't know every little factoid about the sport that exists, as I'm sure no one else does here either, though they pretend otherwise and get very involved in proving things most people don't give a **** about.

So sue me.

Nice of U to keep it a secret, El CHUMPO!!!

[jbpanama]

He doesn't have any boxing knowledge outside of the K bros, and that is tainted by his man lust for them.

HMMM, U think it's one of those, "GAY THINGS"???

[Steak]

I have the video of Johnson-Ruiz, I posted it in our videos section. There was NO knockdown of Kirk Johnson in that fight.

Kirk was never down in a fight until he fought Vitali.

You have a sick need to LIE to discredit the Klitschkos, like when you said Sam Peter was not ranked in the Ring Top ten when Wlad fought him in 2005. You knew he actually was top 10, but you believed I wouldn't be able to prove it.

Why not be honest and admit you have an obsessive hatred for the K Bros?

Again, I dont know if it was ruled a knockdown or not, but I specifically remember Johnson hitting the deck after being hit with a right hand. What might have happened is that he tried to hold on after being hurt, and then dropped to the canvas.

and incidently, Im not some lunatic like you make me out to be. Regarding Sam Peter, this was my exact quote...

If you can find some solid proof that Sam was rated in the top 10 by any major boxing publisher(that recongnises all the fighters in the division regardless of holding a belt) prior to the 1st Wladimir fight, then from now on I will always keep that in mind and reference that version of Peter as a top ten fighter. Im not unreasonable. All Ive ever seen to this point was that Sam was not a top ten fighter at the time, just prospect status. but its certainly possible I missed something.

Atlas is a nutjob who compares boxing to cooking and says the best boxers would be basketball players, so although I think his prefight gameplans are fairly solid his comparisons can be insane and should be taken with a grain of salt.

And incidently, I have counted that win as a good one for Wladimir since then.

I give Wladimir credit all the time.

he will probably be top ten by the end of his career.

granted, his era is one of the worst ever. it makes me cringe sometimes when I see his opponents. but, he has consistantly beaten a high number of them, and has around 11 wins over top opposition by now, which is actually more than a number of ATG heavyweights.(although, again, its a bad era).

add that in with his dominance and yeah, I dont think its a stretch to make him top ten. well, once his career is done.

oddly enough I think a big problem for Wladimir legacy wise is his brother. If his brother wasnt around he truly would be the most dominant fighter in boxing, and undisputably the best at HW.

unfortunately Vitali steals a lot of the spotlight because of his style, and its hard to be consider dominant in a weak division when you have to share the crown with an older brother who has avenged your losses for you....

And its a shame, because Wladimir clearly has the better record than Vitali.

either way, Wladimir is well on his way to becoming an ATG heavyweight. the division sucks, but his dominance is pretty damn impressive, and hes actually starting to rack up a lot of wins over the best in the division.

lmfao.

Wladimir is hilarious.

stop being such a nutcase. I know its just the internet, but damn, grow up. You imagine racism and bias everywhere.

[LeadUppercut]

why people..... feel the need to discredit Foreman's career as well as Joe Frazier's. Simply because you do don't like his opinion on W Klitschko.

Great point right there. I would also like to hear that question answered.

[Vadrigar.]

The bigger question is why people like you feel the need to discredit Foreman's career as well as Joe Frazier's. Simply because you do don't like his opinion on W Klitschko.Answer that before you ask me any questions.

All these klitlickers resort to, is ad hominem attacks on George without actually dealing with his arguments. What a sad way to debate. Trying to discredit George isn't going to pick up Wlad in any way. Instead it's just self defeating since the current division is very weak compared to his own.

However there is something Geroge has missed out. Wladimir also fights this way now to protect his poor stamina which has shown up in the past.

[JAB5239]

HMMM, U think it's one of those, "GAY THINGS"???

I have no doubt Chippy would glory hole both K bros at the same time.

[ChopperRead]

Nice of U to keep it a secret, El CHUMPO!!!

Who gives a **** outside of a couple of nitwits on this board?

[JAB5239]

I have no doubt Chippy would glory hole both K bros at the same time.

Who gives a **** outside of a couple of nitwits on this board?

Lol, I knew it!!!

[nomadman]

Foreman is right

Wlad was happy throwing a jab all night, he never once tried to take Haye out of there

He threw no body shots, no uppercuts, no left hook, he only threw 3 rights

Wlad never came into the ring to TKO Haye, he came with a boring gameplan to win on points

If Wlad had applied more pressure to Haye, he might of TKO'd him and everyone would be a fan of him.....instead he ruined his big moment to shine

He threw a couple of hooks, but they were missing wide so he decided to stick to the jab and right hand. Kind of made for a bit of a stinker, but I don't really blame him considering the magnitude of the fight. I disagree that he never had any intention to KO Haye. He simply didn't go into the fight looking for that one big punch. It was more along the lines of, "I'll fight my fight and what if it happens it happens."

Haye has way more to be ashamed of considering his boasts.