Analysis: Lewis vs. Klitschko

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  • edgarg
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    #21
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    I am no Lewis fan but people forget one big point. Lewis was training for someone else. Vitali was a late addition. That said Vitali got the **** beat out of him. 65-70 stitches. top the madness.
    I have never seen the number of stitches mentioned Big Dunn, and it should be a precise number, not an approximation. BESIDES, the eyebrow was attended to by a specialist in cosmetic surgery, employed by Klitschko, probably the best in the world, and there was ABSOLUTELY NO SIGN of even a scar 10 days later, when Klitschko appeared on a TV Special to show how quickly it had healed and to refute that there had been any real damage. It was healed with no mark left.

    He pointed this out, again reiterating that the fight should not have been stopped because of his eyebrow cut. And, lastly, for the number of stitches to be revealed would be a litigious breach of the Hippocratic Oath, where all medical information is held SECRET.

    And I hardly think that the Klitschko's revealed it. It must have been a journalistic guess, just to make a story to print.

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      #22
      Originally posted by ChopperRead
      yeah yeah yeah.

      Keep ****ing dreaming about your boy Lennox beating up the K-Bros since Haye failed so miserably.

      The fact remains Lennox was too chicken**** to rematch Vitali and retired because of it.

      And the only reason he doesn't come back now, which he badly wants to do, is because of the K-Bros.

      He goes to sleep every night with the BOOS directed at him from his last ever fight ringing in his ears.

      What a way to go out!

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        #23
        Originally posted by ChopperRead
        And very sad.
        Not the only thing that's 'sad' round here!!

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          #24
          Originally posted by edgarg
          I have never seen the number of stitches mentioned Big Dunn, and it should be a precise number, not an approximation. BESIDES, the eyebrow was attended to by a specialist in cosmetic surgery, employed by Klitschko, probably the best in the world, and there was ABSOLUTELY NO SIGN of even a scar 10 days later, when Klitschko appeared on a TV Special to show how quickly it had healed and to refute that there had been any real damage. It was healed with no mark left.

          He pointed this out, again reiterating that the fight should not have been stopped because of his eyebrow cut. And, lastly, for the number of stitches to be revealed would be a litigious breach of the Hippocratic Oath, where all medical information is held SECRET.

          And I hardly think that the Klitschko's revealed it. It must have been a journalistic guess, just to make a story to print.
          HIPPA is a US law. Vitali is not a US citizen, but i get your point. Of course he wants the fight to go on. Yes he had a punchers chance still but this fight was over.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ChopperRead
            So what? Vitali was training for someone else as well. Think it through before you post.

            Vitali got cut by a dirty move. Lewis got the crap beat out of him. Try watching the actual fight instead of the one of your fantasies.
            I think (not certain) he was expecting to fight a guy named Cedric Boswell. An ordinary fighter no way comparable with a World Champ 4 inches and 40 lbs heavier. Lewis was training for Kirk Johnson, virtually inbeaten and the #1 or 2 Challenger, whose record was 31-1. The "1" was a DQ against Ruiz in, I think the 10th, with Johnson well ahead and Ruiz faked the low blow, a real Hopkins stunt. I saw the fight at the time it was staged.

            So there was a huge difference in expectations as far as training was concerned.

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              #26
              Lennox Lewis stopped Vitali Klitshcko in the 6th.

              This is a fact.

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                #27
                Originally posted by edgarg
                I have never seen the number of stitches mentioned Big Dunn, and it should be a precise number, not an approximation. BESIDES, the eyebrow was attended to by a specialist in cosmetic surgery, employed by Klitschko, probably the best in the world, and there was ABSOLUTELY NO SIGN of even a scar 10 days later, when Klitschko appeared on a TV Special to show how quickly it had healed and to refute that there had been any real damage. It was healed with no mark left.

                He pointed this out, again reiterating that the fight should not have been stopped because of his eyebrow cut. And, lastly, for the number of stitches to be revealed would be a litigious breach of the Hippocratic Oath, where all medical information is held SECRET.

                And I hardly think that the Klitschko's revealed it. It must have been a journalistic guess, just to make a story to print.
                60 stitches. Lewis TKO6 Klitschko: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/25/sp...klitschko.html

                "Dr. Pearlman Hicks, a California-based plastic surgeon, said in a telephone news conference that 60 stitches were required to repair four cuts on Klitschko's face and one cut in his mouth. Hicks also said he thought it would take 60 to 90 days for the damage to heal, and that it could take up to six months before Klitschko could safely fight again. Klitschko said he would most likely request the World Boxing Council to order an immediate rematch."

                June 25, 2003, New York Times
                Last edited by RespekonMyName; 07-13-2011, 04:06 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  I think (not certain) he was expecting to fight a guy named Cedric Boswell. An ordinary fighter no way comparable with a World Champ 4 inches and 40 lbs heavier. Lewis was training for Kirk Johnson, virtually inbeaten and the #1 or 2 Challenger, whose record was 31-1. The "1" was a DQ against Ruiz in, I think the 10th, with Johnson well ahead and Ruiz faked the low blow, a real Hopkins stunt. I saw the fight at the time it was staged.

                  So there was a huge difference in expectations as far as training was concerned.
                  Uhh...revisionist history much? While Ruiz was clearly overreacting to one of the low blows...Johnson hit him south of the border about 15 times that fight. So often that it was absolutely disgraceful. Johnson came away from that fight looking like a complete and utter joke - which is what people thought of Lewis-Johnson when it was first announced. Furthermore, the only damaging punch in the Ruiz-Johnson fight was a bout-changing straight right from Ruiz that left Johnson ordering a two-piece with a biscuit. Think that occurred around the ninth, right before it was stopped.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by edgarg
                    I think (not certain) he was expecting to fight a guy named Cedric Boswell. An ordinary fighter no way comparable with a World Champ 4 inches and 40 lbs heavier. Lewis was training for Kirk Johnson, virtually inbeaten and the #1 or 2 Challenger, whose record was 31-1. The "1" was a DQ against Ruiz in, I think the 10th, with Johnson well ahead and Ruiz faked the low blow, a real Hopkins stunt. I saw the fight at the time it was staged.

                    So there was a huge difference in expectations as far as training was concerned.
                    You most definitely have not seen the Ruiz-Johnson fight. Did you even know that Ruiz had dropped and rocked Johnson with a right hand not long before the low blows, and that Johnson had busted Ruiz's balls earlier in the fight multiple times?

                    Johnson looked like **** ass in that fight. Watching Ruiz get all pissy with his fouls was pretty hilarious though, LOL.


                    I think what you were going for was that you were hoping that no one had seen the fight, and wanted to put some silly spin on it to hype up Johnson. Thinking that Ruiz faked low blows is your own business, but dont bull**** and act like Johnson was dominating before getting an unfair DQ. Thats completley false.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by vincebond
                      60 stitches. Lewis TKO6 Klitschko: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/25/sp...klitschko.html

                      "Dr. Pearlman Hicks, a California-based plastic surgeon, said in a telephone news conference that 60 stitches were required to repair four cuts on Klitschko's face and one cut in his mouth. Hicks also said he thought it would take 60 to 90 days for the damage to heal, and that it could take up to six months before Klitschko could safely fight again. Klitschko said he would most likely request the World Boxing Council to order an immediate rematch."

                      June 25, 2003, New York Times
                      @chopper: this is the cut i was talking about in the other thread, so it was no translational mistake...

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