Margarito getting another title shot, WTF?

[The Big Dunn]

He wanted to fight anybody who was willing to step in the ring.

When he stepped up in competition he lost? What are you talking about?

You talking about Santos? That was at 154 not 147 and even then Santos is no bum and even then it was a close fight that Marg was coming on strong and arguably winning the fight, and even then he made Santos fight in a way that Santos had never fought before or after.

Margarito had no great skills. But, he did one thing great and that was he made you fight in a way that was uncomfortable for you.

Margarito during this time period. Was a tough out for any WW around this time.

And, the mystique was created not by Top rank...That's something Floyd fans like to use...But, from other fighters not willing to step up and fight him.

What do floyd fans have to do with this? We have a different opinion of where Marg was during this time period. You are right the fight was at 154.

I am not one that makes a fighter better based on people not fighting him. I assess a fighter based on what I have seen. Because zab, ODH, floyd and mosley didn't fight him in 2004 doesn't make him any better or worse a fighter.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Not trying to justify. Just saying that these posters need to stop crying about these stuff because it's very prevalent in boxing. Just watch the fight and stop worrying about those belts.

**** I've been following the sport for many years now and I don't know who the alphabet champs are in each division. And I dont give a **** because I know who the best are. just enjoy the fights.

I been following the sport basically since I was 6 years old and being a champion means something. Its something boxers hold in high regard atleast most of them and for Margarito to get 2 in back to fights is a joke no matter how much bad blood is between him and Cotto.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What do floyd fans have to do with this? We have a different opinion of where Marg was during this time period. You are right the fight was at 154.

I am not one that makes a fighter better based on people not fighting him. I assess a fighter based on what I have seen. Because zab, ODH, floyd and mosley didn't fight him in 2004 doesn't make him any better or worse a fighter.

In hindsight a lot of fighters get overrated like hell on this site. Out of those 4 the only who Marg beats is Judah. Oscar, Floyd, younger Shane wouldve bent him over, no lube.

[jrosales13]

I can see no reason why any fighter who is making money would fight a fringe champ like Marg, especially after the espn ppv did 225k. I respect the point but not fighting Marg doesn't make him better in my eyes.

Its almost as if Jan Zavick is the most feared ww now.

Yea because Zavick is KO'ing prospects and contenders. Because, people are turning down career high paydays to not fight him. Because, you got other title holders saying straight up they will not fight him...

Yes Big Dunce, is pretty much the same thing.

And, you keep talking about this 225k PPV like if it's so horrible. Around that time...What type of PPV numbers was Judah pulling? Take Floyd away what PPV numbers did Judah ever do? What about Mayorga? Take Tito and Oscar away what PPV did he do?

[Born2Live]

Meaning a champion doesn't mean jack **** nowdays, sad but true, when you got the face of boxing cliaming 'all belts do is collectdust' it's a new era of boxers, not the era where belts meant something.

It's not helped when some bull**** belts are getting made up on the spot also, WBA Super champion belt, fack outta here.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Meaning a champion doesn't mean jack **** nowdays, sad but true, when you got the face of boxing cliaming 'all belts do is collectdust' it's a new era of boxers, not the era where belts meant something.

It's not helped when some bull**** belts are getting made up on the spot also, WBA Super champion belt, fack outta here.

Try telling Hopkins belts dont mean anything.

[The Big Dunn]

I give him credit for what he did. And, I acknowledged who didn't want to get in the ring with him.

No title is respected now. All the titles now are a joke so what's your point? That's beyond the issue because he was actually building up a pretty damn solid resume. If you look at the resumes from 2000-2009 at WW. Only Mosley can be said to having a better resume...And, that is much much much better than having a recognized belt or not.

No title is respected now. All the titles now are a joke so what's your point?
During the period we are disvussing, the WBC, WBA, and IBF titles, if you held them, you were the unified champ. The WBO wasn't recognized.

That's beyond the issue because he was actually building up a pretty damn solid resume. If you look at the resumes from 2000-2009 at WW. Only Mosley can be said to having a better resume...And, that is much much much better than having a recognized belt or not.

Agreed but that wasn't the time fram cuauht was referencing when I responded. He was referencing the middle of the decade when Marg got the "most avoided" title that top rank runs with.

[Born2Live]

Try telling Hopkins belts dont mean anything.

But Hopkin's is not from the new era, he's from the era where belts meant something.

[jrosales13]

What do floyd fans have to do with this? We have a different opinion of where Marg was during this time period. You are right the fight was at 154.

I am not one that makes a fighter better based on people not fighting him. I assess a fighter based on what I have seen. Because zab, ODH, floyd and mosley didn't fight him in 2004 doesn't make him any better or worse a fighter.

The whole "Marg is not good it was just Top Rank propaganda" **** that you insinuated a few posts. Is really just the mindset of mostly Floyd fans...Why I have no idea. So that were that came from.

There was a reason...Why they felt the way they felt towards Marg...The risk didn't out weight the reward in any way.

[The Big Dunn]

In hindsight a lot of fighters get overrated like hell on this site. Out of those 4 the only who Marg beats is Judah. Oscar, Floyd, younger Shane wouldve bent him over, no lube.

IMO if Zab has is head on straight (i know iknow) he beats Marg easily. Zab is too fast and skilled.