Margarito getting another title shot, WTF?

[jrosales13]

Jrosale13:

We will agree to diagree about a good performance. The WBO was not a respected or highly recognized sanctioning body at that time. Marg was a fringe champion that benefitted greatly from being a top rank employee.

and arguably the best fighter in the division right now.

I believe this is a typo. He is the best fighter in what division 147?

A fringe champion? In what way was he fringe champion?

How was that not a good performance? He ran through a highly touted prospect of the division. And, did it like it was nothing...How was that not a good performance? WBO being on the line is irrelevant to the performance.

LOL @ calling him a fringe champion. You do not know WTF you're talking about.

The man has arguably the best resume in the division in the last decade. Yet he was fringe champion? GTFOH.

Yea and the last line. Obviously he's nothing now. He's done as a fighter now. And, doesn't deserve any title shot now. But, at the time he was arguably the best WW out there and was ignored throughout most of the time.

[The Big Dunn]

It's one thing to **** on Marg now.

But, if you want to shit on Marg for the better part of the decade. Then you obviously wasn't following the WW division that closely...That mofo was a beast that nearly nobody was eager to fuck with..

There was only one, that really wanted Marg. And, that was a fellow beast that nobody wanted to fuck with in P-Will.

After that from Judah, to Mayorga, to Floyd, to Oscar, to Winky to nobody wanted to really get in there with the longest reigning title holder and arguably best fighter in the division.

Because the risk didn't out weight the reward. Marg was ignored for the most part of his career. So people not to got to see the subtle things he did well inside the ring.

If you are referring to me I am not ****ting on him. He wanted a title and fought WBO level opponents to get one. Then, when he stepped up in compettiton, he lost, to a fighter who wasn't an upper echelon fighter in any way.

I believe much of his mystique was created by his promotional team.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Hes been pedestrian at JMW and at WW as of late. I dont see how he has another title shot so soon outside of corrupt boxing politics.

[IMDAZED]

If you are referring to me I am not ****ting on him. He wanted a title and fought WBO level opponents to get one. Then, when he stepped up in compettiton, he lost, to a fighter who wasn't an upper echelon fighter in any way.

I believe much of his mystique was created by his promotional team.

Much of the mystique was created by other fighters int he division who ran scared whenever his name was mentioned. From Zab to Mosley.

[jrosales13]

Margarito didn't deserve the last title shot and proved it by getting destroyed. Why is anyone surprised that the same people who excused him for getting that fight are doing the same for him getting another? Margarito's become the Mexican Zab Judah - king of getting undeserved fights.

He doesn't deserve a title shot. No doubt about it...But, it's a Cotto fight. And, with the whole wraps scandal. With the history of the first fight. I want to see this...Personally me anyways.

To me a fight between these 2 is bigger than the title.

And, plus I'm not sure if Cotto can win this fight. If Marg has anything left...He can beat Cotto again IMO. But, most likely Marg is shot and Cotto will beat him.

But, the history with this two...I wouldn't care if the title is on the line or not I want to see it. However, not on PPV smh.

[The Big Dunn]

A fringe champion? In what way was he fringe champion?

How was that not a good performance? He ran through a highly touted prospect of the division. And, did it like it was nothing...How was that not a good performance? WBO being on the line is irrelevant to the performance.

LOL @ calling him a fringe champion. You do not know WTF you're talking about.

The man has arguably the best resume in the division in the last decade. Yet he was fringe champion? GTFOH.

Yea and the last line. Obviously he's nothing now. He's done as a fighter now. And, doesn't deserve any title shot now. But, at the time he was arguably the best WW out there and was ignored throughout most of the time.

The WBO was a fringe organization when Marg was the champ. Understand my frame of reference, when I began watching boxing there was no IBF, WBO, IBA. IBF and WBO were jokes.

I think you are overexaggerating who Cintron was but we can just agree to disagree. WHile your point about his resume is good, that in no way changes the fact the WBO title was not widely respected.

He was a very good fighter in the beginning of the last decade no question. But i get the sense you give him credit because he didn't fight floyd or ODH.

[The Big Dunn]

Much of the mystique was created by other fighters int he division who ran scared whenever his name was mentioned. From Zab to Mosley.

I can see no reason why any fighter who is making money would fight a fringe champ like Marg, especially after the espn ppv did 225k. I respect the point but not fighting Marg doesn't make him better in my eyes.

Its almost as if Jan Zavick is the most feared ww now.

[jrosales13]

If you are referring to me I am not ****ting on him. He wanted a title and fought WBO level opponents to get one. Then, when he stepped up in compettiton, he lost, to a fighter who wasn't an upper echelon fighter in any way.

I believe much of his mystique was created by his promotional team.

He wanted to fight anybody who was willing to step in the ring.

When he stepped up in competition he lost? What are you talking about?

You talking about Santos? That was at 154 not 147 and even then Santos is no bum and even then it was a close fight that Marg was coming on strong and arguably winning the fight, and even then he made Santos fight in a way that Santos had never fought before or after.

Margarito had no great skills. But, he did one thing great and that was he made you fight in a way that was uncomfortable for you.

Margarito during this time period. Was a tough out for any WW around this time.

And, the mystique was created not by Top rank...That's something Floyd fans like to use...But, from other fighters not willing to step up and fight him.

[johncods]

Alvarez and Chavez just didn't get trashed by Pacquiao, barely beat a cab driver and beat by Mosley.

I can understand people pulling strings for him, but please don't try to justify the belt on the line.

Not trying to justify. Just saying that these posters need to stop crying about these stuff because it's very prevalent in boxing. Just watch the fight and stop worrying about those belts.

**** I've been following the sport for many years now and I don't know who the alphabet champs are in each division. And I dont give a **** because I know who the best are. just enjoy the fights.

[jrosales13]

The WBO was a fringe organization when Marg was the champ. Understand my frame of reference, when I began watching boxing there was no IBF, WBO, IBA. IBF and WBO were jokes.

I think you are overexaggerating who Cintron was but we can just agree to disagree. WHile your point about his resume is good, that in no way changes the fact the WBO title was not widely respected.

He was a very good fighter in the beginning of the last decade no question. But i get the sense you give him credit because he didn't fight floyd or ODH.

I give him credit for what he did. And, I acknowledged who didn't want to get in the ring with him.

No title is respected now. All the titles now are a joke so what's your point? That's beyond the issue because he was actually building up a pretty damn solid resume. If you look at the resumes from 2000-2009 at WW. Only Mosley can be said to having a better resume...And, that is much much much better than having a recognized belt or not.