How Does Martinez Matchup In These 10 Big Fights?

[Bushbaby]

People enough of this bullshyt. Martinez isnt Sugar Ray Robinson. God damn.


People are seriously in this thread wondering if Floyd can land his punches? Or get inside? Or that he might go into survival mode? What in the ****. Since when is Floyd Billy Dib?


Martinez would find in about a round or so that Floyd is no Pavlik or Williams. QUICKLY.

Sergio can have his hands down against guys hes faster than. Hes not faster than Floyd.
Sergio have found the face first brawlers VERY easy to hit. Floyd..not so much.
Floyd will realize that Martinez is EXTREMELY easy to hit.


Floyds straight right hand down the pipe makes it ugly. People are overrating thr hell out of Martinez. He isnt anywhere close to Mayweather skillwise and he damn sure aint outboxing him.

Enough.

Yes,in that same note,Floyd would find out that Martinez is no Baldomir,he isn't Sharmba,he isn't Oscar,nor Gatti,nor an older Shane,c'mon bro.

Floyd was lucky to have champs like Baldomir & an aging Oscar around when he challenged for titles.there is no opponent on Floyd's resume that matches up to the current Martinez.

Blazing speed-check.
Devastating power-check.
Latteral movement-check.
Good jab-check
Counterpuncher-ask the Punisher.
Usable size-check.
High ring OQ-check.

[IMDAZED]

People enough of this bullshyt. Martinez isnt Sugar Ray Robinson. God damn.


People are seriously in this thread wondering if Floyd can land his punches? Or get inside? Or that he might go into survival mode? What in the ****. Since when is Floyd Billy Dib?


Martinez would find in about a round or so that Floyd is no Pavlik or Williams. QUICKLY.

Sergio can have his hands down against guys hes faster than. Hes not faster than Floyd.
Sergio have found the face first brawlers VERY easy to hit. Floyd..not so much.
Floyd will realize that Martinez is EXTREMELY easy to hit.


Floyds straight right hand down the pipe makes it ugly. People are overrating thr hell out of Martinez. He isnt anywhere close to Mayweather skillwise and he damn sure aint outboxing him.

Enough.

I hear you, NC, but every fighter has a limit. At some point size matters. Usually when it's accompanied by skill and Martinez is skillful and powerful.

[Walt Liquor]

sergio=full blown MW
floyd=full blown WW



do you not see an advantage there? like if sergio was gonna meet chad dawson at 168, would there not be a huge advantage for chad. would it be as easy for sergio to land straight lefts on a dawson type?

what physical advantages would floyd have over sergio? when's the last time floyd didn't have every physical advantage in a fight? maaaaybe in the zab fight 5 years ago zab has just as quick of hands, or dela may have been stronger 6 yrs ago...

other than that, this would be all new for floyd.

[jrosales13]

Some of the posts on here...Makes me feel that Floyd is overrated by some, granted every fighter gets overrated by some.

The man is not superman. He's not unbeatable.

Is one thing to say that Floyd beats Martinez...Fine OK...But, to say he would make Martinez look silly, or it will be easy or dominated. Than that just nothing but ****riding.

That's all that is.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Some of the posts on here...Makes me feel that Floyd is overrated by some, granted every fighter gets overrated by some.

The man is not superman. He's not unbeatable.

Is one thing to say that Floyd beats Martinez...Fine OK...But, to say he would make Martinez look silly, or it will be easy or dominated. Than that just nothing but ****riding.

That's all that is.

Floyd beats Martinez easy. Floyd dominates him. Floyd makes him look silly.

[jrosales13]

****riding? Grow up bro.

Yes, again it's one thing to say that Floyd beats Martinez...I can see why some would feel and think that way. And, that's fine. But, to say that Floyd wins easy, dominated, makes Martinez look silly. It's pure diclriding that's all it is.

There's no other reason or logic to think...Unless you're a ****rider who overrates the man abilities.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I hear you, NC, but every fighter has a limit. At some point size matters. Usually when it's accompanied by skill and Martinez is skillful and powerful.

Hes the same size as Oscar De LeHoya almost identical. Floyd was actually stronger than Oscar in that fight as Oscar admitted post fight. Martinez is skillful and thats what makes his chances dwindle. Hed actually try to outbox Mayweather.

His jab is lazy and can be timed. Heck even Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams started timing that jab. I dont like this match up at all for Martinez, against Mayweather he would the hardest time hes ever had landing clean. That in itself makes it an uphill battle. Martinez is fast for a middleweight but hes not as fast or as quick as Mayweather.

Npw am I saying Martinez wont have his spots? No. He will especially early for the first 4 rounds or so until Floyd starts place those bodyshots and figure him out. But after that I think its target practice.

[Chopper417]

154 would suit me just fine. While the historical significance of the middleweight title would be incredible, the historical significance of beating Sergio Martinez at this stage is even greater.

Completely co-sign this. I think Floyd against Sergio is a complete toss up. Sergio is one of the only fighters at any weight class that can come close to matching Floyd in pure athleticism and he is obviously a huge JMW. I do feel that Sergio would have to use a bit of a different strategy because I just can't see the low hands working. Heck of a fight though and I would love to see it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Yes, again it's one thing to say that Floyd beats Martinez...I can see why some would feel and think that way. And, that's fine. But, to say that Floyd wins easy, dominated, makes Martinez look silly. It's pure diclriding that's all it is.

There's no other reason or logic to think...Unless you're a ****rider who overrates the man abilities.

Why is it so far fetched to think the best fighter in the world can beat Martinez easy?

Martinez as good as he is (P4P Number 1 in my eyes) is not a thinking type of fighter. Hes more of a instinctive type of fighter, Against Floyd he would have to think he would have to be careful about throwing wild shots and he would have to pick and chose his punches because there wont be many opportunities.

If you can make a guy as fast as he is and as dynamic as he is start to think and hesitate it does him no favors. Martinez has never fought a fighter faster with his hands, feet and head movement than he is. Hes never fought a guy this hard to hit. All the power in the world can be for nothing if you struggle to land clean and put everything into it.

Martinez is not a strong fighter. In spite of how much he weighs. He can be easily maneuvered inside. Paul Williams showed that and Paul is not strong at all. In the least bit. Floyd can get inside...easily. Because Martinez doesnt lead with a jab he throws it throughout the fight but he does not lead with it. His hands are down awaiting to throw counters. Floyd will have no problem unloading the right hand and avoiding the return fire. And with his hands down backpedaling hes asking for it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

sergio=full blown MW
floyd=full blown WW



do you not see an advantage there? like if sergio was gonna meet chad dawson at 168, would there not be a huge advantage for chad. would it be as easy for sergio to land straight lefts on a dawson type?

what physical advantages would floyd have over sergio? when's the last time floyd didn't have every physical advantage in a fight? maaaaybe in the zab fight 5 years ago zab has just as quick of hands, or dela may have been stronger 6 yrs ago...

other than that, this would be all new for floyd.

The fight would be at full blown JMW.

Hes quicker, faster, more handspeed, fotspeed, reflexes, agility. Oscar wasnt stronger than Floyd Oscar said that post fight that he was surprised that Floyd controlled the cliches and the inside.

Martinez only physical advantage is that he hits harder. And that hes taller.Thats it.

Martinez has the shorter reach and he does not lead with a jab. Martinez like Paul Williams like to give up their height in fights.