Floyd has turned the tables on Manny in their chessmatch

[tomhawq]

people should stop making up ****s then pass it on like facts. that's so pathetic and desperate.

pac did not make any demand for shane to take additional blood testing much more rescinded that stipulation in the fight contract. it was just a rumor that roach immediately shut down.

pac doesn't need to demand extra tests. that's general knowledge. so i don't take these clowns seriously. the pacman is just too macho for that type of sissiness. so trust me. normal people know what exactly is going on.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Walt, off topic, i want to see Mathyssee vs Maidana

Now that fight is PPV worthy. Hell I'd spend $80 on that PPV.

[Bermuda]

seriously who really cares who's outplaying who? does it really matter right now? I remember seeing a couple of video interviews where pac confirms that full random blood testing isn't a problem for him anymore, and yesterday floyd said he "absolutely" wants to fight pac (he also mentioned on espn that his fight with ortiz may be preperation for a future fight against pac). so, assuming pac and floyd both win their fights then we can probably expect to see them getting back to negotiating a fight for next year.

[tomhawq]

seriously who really cares who's outplaying who? does it really matter right now? I remember seeing a couple of video interviews where pac confirms that full random blood testing isn't a problem for him anymore, and yesterday floyd said he "absolutely" wants to fight pac (he also mentioned on espn that his fight with ortiz may be preperation for a future fight against pac). so, assuming pac and floyd both win their fights then we can probably expect to see them getting back to negotiating a fight for next year.

i've said this before. i do think that the pacman camp is doing a crappy job when it comes to this issue. their pr department is doing nothing to resolve it. they need to clear the air by holding a press conference with a theme that says pacman will be amenable to blood tests up to the day of the fight. they can probably do this in the marquez trilogy press conf -- put the ball squarely on little floyd's lap. there are people like roach who are against this. to roach bowing down to this ****** tests is giving up round one of the fight already. but pacman needs to insist about it to make floyd look like an idiot pretending drug testing is still an issue, when in fact it's the money.

[The Big Dunn]

Walt I stepped away and came back and you are still holding it down. Kudos.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

That isn't necessarily true. Jeff Bagwell failed to get voted into the Baseball HoF based almost entirely on the fact that he played during the steroid era. There isn't one iota of evidence against him, he wasn't implicated in the Mitchell Report yet the su****ion is what kept him out of Cooperstown.

Cannot compare baseball to boxing, baseball is much more strict in it's HOF requirements.

There are many boxers with very shady past history that have been allowed into the HOF......Mike Tyson comes to mind.

[The Big Dunn]

Cannot compare baseball to boxing, baseball is much more strict in it's HOF requirements.

There are many boxers with very shady past history that have been allowed into the HOF......Mike Tyson comes to mind.

But thats off the playing field. No one really cares what happens off the field only on it.

[Walt Liquor]

i've said this before. i do think that the pacman camp is doing a crappy job when it comes to this issue. their pr department is doing nothing to resolve it. they need to clear the air by holding a press conference with a theme that says pacman will be amenable to blood tests up to the day of the fight. they can probably do this in the marquez trilogy press conf -- put the ball squarely on little floyd's lap. there are people like roach who are against this. to roach bowing down to this ****** tests is giving up round one of the fight already. but pacman needs to insist about it to make floyd look like an idiot pretending drug testing is still an issue, when in fact it's the money.

hells to the yea pacfan. cosizzle.

everyone knows I like pac but he needs to do something here instead of just sitting on the sidelines taking crap fights.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

But thats off the playing field. No one really cares what happens off the field only on it.

Not true, in baseball they care very much what you do off the field. They are much more strict in their requirements.

I'm just saying, I don't think Manny will be viewed negatively unless he does test positive or there is enough speculation like Bonds to make him look bad in the eyes of the public but it has to be a lot.

[Walt Liquor]

seriously who really cares who's outplaying who? does it really matter right now? I remember seeing a couple of video interviews where pac confirms that full random blood testing isn't a problem for him anymore, and yesterday floyd said he "absolutely" wants to fight pac (he also mentioned on espn that his fight with ortiz may be preperation for a future fight against pac). so, assuming pac and floyd both win their fights then we can probably expect to see them getting back to negotiating a fight for next year.

that would be great, just get it done, but i thik in the long rin it could matter, especially if the fight doesn't happen for some reason