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Manny doesn't really make official statements. A YouTube clip does not qualify as him agreeing to USADA random tests up until the day.
Inconsistencies in terms of facts are an indication of falsehoods. In business, men deal with THE BOTTOM LINE. And in this instance the bottom line is that all of Pacquiao's demands were met. Not all of Mayweather's demands were met. The fault lies with the party that did not fulfill its obligation. In this case, that party is Team Pacquiao.
I have no made no argument to contest that the allegations that suggest individuals in Team Mayweather have made inconsistent statements. However, that is a red herring, as the real issue is about who is responsible for halting the mega fight from being made.
I agree here, except *******s are more than simply overly zealous. They have attempted to deify Manny Pacquiao despite his resume and his legacy being less impressive and definitely less legitimate than other boxers. If Manny had truly and legitimately done all that his PR team claim, I would be among those singing his praises! However, next to every great milestone Pacquiao has achieved in boxing, there is an asterisk because there is additional information required to get the full picture of what he really did, and more importantly what he didn't really do.
I challenge this statement. When has Floyd ever effortlessly proven to be able to go below 147? In fact, other than Hatton who chased Floyd from 140lbs, Marquez is the only other guy Floyd has fought from a smaller division than the one he was competing in.
The weight demand wasn't the issue. The excessive $10 million per lb price tag was the absurd aspect of the demand. Yet Floyd met the demand and fulfilled his obligation!
I don't see how this last point makes any sense: "Pac's $10million/lb demand ISN'T absurd mainly because the ONLY difference between the blood and urine tests is the detection of HGH. nothing more."
How does that make any sense? Are you aware of all the ways that exist to dope? I don't think so. I don't think that even Victor Conte is aware of every way to dope. New innovations are created everyday. So to speculate that only HGH cannot be detected is foolish.
Yet Floyd has been the only one consistently willing to take all the tests randomly! Its only Pacquiao that has ever refused a test when tens of millions are on the table. Mosley and now Ortiz were both willing to do ANY tests to make the fights with Mayweather happen. Also, I did state that "Conte's insight into PEDs is always worth listening to", but his past creates a conflict of interests when he begins to pontificate as to who should just fight who.
We don't know what Manny is taking. So why do you insist that a urine tests is adequate? You've already admitted that HGH is undetectable by urine tests. Why do you then ignore the possibility that other drugs may exist that urine tests cannot detect when HGH has already established reasonable doubt?
The fact that some athletes may not be thorough is not the same as urine tests being a stringent enough testing method to detect the majority of PEDs in modern sports. One is not the other.
A better question is if Floyd offered 14 days and Pacquiao refused it, then why is 14 days acceptable now? And whose fault is it that the 14 days is no longer on the table?
There was no wrong doing on Floyd's part by asking for even more deeper and probing testing methods and standards once he defeated the #1 WW in the world. He was then in a position strength and Pacquiao was in a position of weakness. Be that as it may, Floyd NEVER asked to lower the penalty for coming in over weight. He simply wanted the best and most stringent testing available.
Floyd is an Olympian who turned pro and fought a world champion and future HOF in just his 18th fight. Floyd challenged at defeated the best in every division that he's fought in, with the exception of Kostya Tszyu who demanded a 60/40 split and instead fought and lost to Hatton, who would immediate go up in weight after that fight to seek a match with Floyd.
Floyd Mayweather has conducted his career with integrity & has intentionally gone after the WBC title[the most respected and prestigious title in the alphabet title era] in every division he's boxed in. Floyd has been the most dominant boxer since Roy Jones in his prime, and is the most accurate boxer since the inception of Compubox into the sport of boxing.
Pacquiao, a guy who has used 5 vacant belts to make his case for being a multi-division champion, holds nothing for Mayweather's legacy. The man has been making excuses for himself since the beginning starting with being "too small". He's used catchweights to weaken his WW opponents, and Manny only fights WWs who are coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Six in a row in fact.
There is no comparison. Manny Pacquiao relies on accolades bestowed upon him by the media to legitimize his place as a top boxer, not his own accomplishments. Playing "little monkey see, little monkey do" is not blazing any trails. When Mayweather beats him, the media and *******s alike will simply say "Pac has heart and did well for a small guy".
So you are saying that boxers have an extensive body examination before fight??? You are saying that they couldn't get away with holes? Even in the legs or on the ass cheeks?
Inconsistencies in terms of facts are an indication of falsehoods. In business, men deal with THE BOTTOM LINE. And in this instance the bottom line is that all of Pacquiao's demands were met. Not all of Mayweather's demands were met. The fault lies with the party that did not fulfill its obligation. In this case, that party is Team Pacquiao.
I have no made no argument to contest that the allegations that suggest individuals in Team Mayweather have made inconsistent statements. However, that is a red herring, as the real issue is about who is responsible for halting the mega fight from being made.
I agree here, except *******s are more than simply overly zealous. They have attempted to deify Manny Pacquiao despite his resume and his legacy being less impressive and definitely less legitimate than other boxers. If Manny had truly and legitimately done all that his PR team claim, I would be among those singing his praises! However, next to every great milestone Pacquiao has achieved in boxing, there is an asterisk because there is additional information required to get the full picture of what he really did, and more importantly what he didn't really do.
I challenge this statement. When has Floyd ever effortlessly proven to be able to go below 147? In fact, other than Hatton who chased Floyd from 140lbs, Marquez is the only other guy Floyd has fought from a smaller division than the one he was competing in.
The weight demand wasn't the issue. The excessive $10 million per lb price tag was the absurd aspect of the demand. Yet Floyd met the demand and fulfilled his obligation!
I don't see how this last point makes any sense: "Pac's $10million/lb demand ISN'T absurd mainly because the ONLY difference between the blood and urine tests is the detection of HGH. nothing more."
How does that make any sense? Are you aware of all the ways that exist to dope? I don't think so. I don't think that even Victor Conte is aware of every way to dope. New innovations are created everyday. So to speculate that only HGH cannot be detected is foolish.
Yet Floyd has been the only one consistently willing to take all the tests randomly! Its only Pacquiao that has ever refused a test when tens of millions are on the table. Mosley and now Ortiz were both willing to do ANY tests to make the fights with Mayweather happen. Also, I did state that "Conte's insight into PEDs is always worth listening to", but his past creates a conflict of interests when he begins to pontificate as to who should just fight who.
We don't know what Manny is taking. So why do you insist that a urine tests is adequate? You've already admitted that HGH is undetectable by urine tests. Why do you then ignore the possibility that other drugs may exist that urine tests cannot detect when HGH has already established reasonable doubt?
The fact that some athletes may not be thorough is not the same as urine tests being a stringent enough testing method to detect the majority of PEDs in modern sports. One is not the other.
A better question is if Floyd offered 14 days and Pacquiao refused it, then why is 14 days acceptable now? And whose fault is it that the 14 days is no longer on the table?
There was no wrong doing on Floyd's part by asking for even more deeper and probing testing methods and standards once he defeated the #1 WW in the world. He was then in a position strength and Pacquiao was in a position of weakness. Be that as it may, Floyd NEVER asked to lower the penalty for coming in over weight. He simply wanted the best and most stringent testing available.
Floyd is an Olympian who turned pro and fought a world champion and future HOF in just his 18th fight. Floyd challenged at defeated the best in every division that he's fought in, with the exception of Kostya Tszyu who demanded a 60/40 split and instead fought and lost to Hatton, who would immediate go up in weight after that fight to seek a match with Floyd.
Floyd Mayweather has conducted his career with integrity & has intentionally gone after the WBC title[the most respected and prestigious title in the alphabet title era] in every division he's boxed in. Floyd has been the most dominant boxer since Roy Jones in his prime, and is the most accurate boxer since the inception of Compubox into the sport of boxing.
Pacquiao, a guy who has used 5 vacant belts to make his case for being a multi-division champion, holds nothing for Mayweather's legacy. The man has been making excuses for himself since the beginning starting with being "too small". He's used catchweights to weaken his WW opponents, and Manny only fights WWs who are coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Six in a row in fact.
There is no comparison. Manny Pacquiao relies on accolades bestowed upon him by the media to legitimize his place as a top boxer, not his own accomplishments. Playing "little monkey see, little monkey do" is not blazing any trails. When Mayweather beats him, the media and *******s alike will simply say "Pac has heart and did well for a small guy".
So you are saying that boxers have an extensive body examination before fight??? You are saying that they couldn't get away with holes? Even in the legs or on the ass cheeks?
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