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  • GRUSTLER
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    #231
    Originally posted by AFighter4U
    i dunno... maybe he actually doesn't want blood taken from him close to a fight?

    but yeah, i guess to you people its much more logical that somehow Pac would take some super duper PED that makes him from a one-dimentional easy money fight to someone floyd sr is afraid jr would face in less than 6 days.
    All I'm saying is, what's the big deal? Pac took a test less than 30 days before the Hatton fight, trained in 100% degree weather at Wild Card Gym and still KO'd Hatton in 2. Pac said giving blood weakens him?

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      #232
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      Ok, but if Pac can still cheat and the tests are not accurate then why won't he just take it?
      Go back and re-read my post.
      It is not Pac who can cheat. He is tested regularly. He has been clean from all these regular tests. Floyd takes long vacations between fights. He can cycle and not be found out because the test he is demanding for is not, repeat, not OST, not all year round. He can still cheat.
      Do you get it Now?

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      • AFighter4U
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        #233
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        All I'm saying is, what's the big deal? Pac took a test less than 30 days before the Hatton fight, trained in 100% degree weather at Wild Card Gym and still KO'd Hatton in 2. Pac said giving blood weakens him?
        7 days is less than 30 days right? so what's the big deal? why not give Pac the 7 days he's asking for? And correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the last week right before the fight the time fighters actually use to tone down from training?

        floyd at one point in time was willing to give him 14 days.

        14 days!

        but now, when Pac is asking for 7 days its totally unreasonable?

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          #234
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER
          Ok, but if Pac can still cheat and the tests are not accurate then why won't he just take it?
          The test is not accurate, yes. Yet you still insist that Pac takes it. For what then? To submit to a dumb test that will not prove that Floyd is clean? That would just make him look as ****** as Floyd.

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            #235
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            So Mosley and Ortiz are dumb for taking the tests to try and beat the best fighter in the sport of boxing, who so happens to be undefeated and VERY famous? You would not take a test to accomplish this? You make no sense AT ALL and the fact that you are justifying Pac ducking the tests with such a lame excuse shows that you are just a fan of Pac. Do you realize that's the whole reason why we haven't saw the fight yet? And you are a supporter of this?
            You are the one who is not making sense. You sound exactly like Floyd. You keep repeating the same mantra of "take the test, take the test". You keep ignoring what came directly from Pac," I want to prove that it wasn't me who didn't want the fight. That's why I made the concession to take anything(blood Test) he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round".

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              #236
              Originally posted by tatangb45
              The test is not accurate, yes. Yet you still insist that Pac takes it. For what then? To submit to a dumb test that will not prove that Floyd is clean? That would just make him look as ****** as Floyd.
              So your saying that the tests are not accurate and Pac shouldn't have to take it because it doesn't work? If this is all it takes to get Floyd in the ring then why wouldn't Pac just take it? Your excuse is that, Pac is clean and shouldn't have to? Did you read my sig on what his fellow stable mate and former opponent has said about the testing Mayweather was/is asking for? Show me an article stating the test doesn't work. I'll tell you what really looks ******. Pac refusing to take these tests that supposedly don't work according to you but instead sues him in court. That looks more ****** then taking a test that don't work. Spending thousands of dollars to sue another pro fighter in court that Pac should be fighting in the ring.
              Last edited by GRUSTLER; 06-30-2011, 08:57 AM.

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                #237
                Originally posted by AFighter4U
                7 days is less than 30 days right? so what's the big deal? why not give Pac the 7 days he's asking for? And correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the last week right before the fight the time fighters actually use to tone down from training?

                floyd at one point in time was willing to give him 14 days.

                14 days!

                but now, when Pac is asking for 7 days its totally unreasonable?
                After Floyd beat Shane, he said "No cut offs". Pac says he agreed to no cut offs as well but somebody on his team said Pac agreed to 7 days? Floyd fought Shane in May 1 2010 and Pac told Khan that he is not mentally ready to take the tests. Why should I believe Manny wants to really take the tests if he is not mentally ready to do so? I pulled out more than enough articles to prove the dude is lying and back peddling. Instead of reading and acknowledging what it is, Pac fans what to come on here and get at me for stating the obvious.
                Last edited by GRUSTLER; 06-30-2011, 09:05 AM.

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by tatangb45
                  You are the one who is not making sense. You sound exactly like Floyd. You keep repeating the same mantra of "take the test, take the test". You keep ignoring what came directly from Pac," I want to prove that it wasn't me who didn't want the fight. That's why I made the concession to take anything(blood Test) he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round".
                  OK but a few posts above a fella pac fan said that Manny already agreed to 7 days? Pac also said that he ain't mentally ready to take them up to the fight according to his boy and fellow sparring partner Amir Khan. How many flip flops do we have to hear from Pacquiao before he actually confronts Floyd and says that he will take the tests at anytime? Floyd is yelling and screaming for Pac to accept the tests and there will be a fight but haven't heard a peek outta Pac concerning the tests since Floyd's been back barking about it. When Floyd was semi retired/on vacation. Freddie Roach, Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao had a lot to say about Floyd but since he has been back........ NADA...... except the court case.
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 06-30-2011, 09:06 AM.

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                    #239
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                    So your saying that the tests are not accurate and Pac shouldn't have to take it because it doesn't work? If this is all it takes to get Floyd in the ring then why wouldn't Pac just take it? Your excuse is that, Pac is clean and shouldn't have to? Did you read my sig on what his fellow stable mate and former opponent has said about the testing Mayweather was/is asking for? Show me an article stating the test doesn't work. I'll tell you what really looks ******. Pac refusing to take these tests that supposedly don't work according to you but instead sues him in court. That looks more ****** then taking a test that don't work. Spending thousands of dollars to sue another pro fighter in court that Pac should be fighting in the ring.
                    you're asking the wrong question.

                    the right one you should be asking is if Pac's 7 day request is reasonable.

                    the biggest mistake people make is that they equate Pac's request to refusing the tests outright when that is simply not true.

                    Note that during that same seven days, he's willing to take unlimited urine tests up to the day of the fight and after.

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      you're asking the wrong question.

                      the right one you should be asking is if Pac's 7 day request is reasonable.

                      the biggest mistake people make is that they equate Pac's request to refusing the tests outright when that is simply not true.

                      Note that during that same seven days, he's willing to take unlimited urine tests up to the day of the fight and after.
                      We can go on for days about this but all I have to say is that now that Floyd is back. We will see what's real and what's fake between them two.

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