It's pretty clear that only certain rules apply to certain fights here.

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  • PRINCE O' PROSE
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    #71
    Originally posted by Check
    That post right there explains it all to me. You guys are so fixated on one thing that it blinds you. In NO way, shape or form am I justifying Alexander getting the victory. What I am doing is pointing out the double standard against many Americans(not Alexander in this case, but Dirrell). I could give two ****s about Devon Alexander. Truth be told, I don't even LIKE that many boxers. I certainly don't like all American fighters.
    I already laid out why the double-standard you cite doesn't really exist.


    But, even if Dirrell was robbed blind (humoring you), Clegg was still right - you'd whine all day about that, but you'd never protest rip-offs that happen on American soil, such as the one we saw last night, and will only even acknowledge that there may have been some small injustice undertaken when put under the kind of duress you're being put under in this thread.




    I love how you endlessly protest that charge of being ridiculously biased towards American fighters, BTW.
    Last edited by PRINCE O' PROSE; 06-26-2011, 06:11 PM.

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    • Check
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      #72
      Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
      Clegg's a fine poster. You're both good cats.



      Honestly, I think Check's argument is nuanced from yours. I think you saw something in his post that struck a chord with your point of view in words, but didn't detect/don't share his underlying agenda.



      That guy's whole schtick is just a "YOOOOO ESSSSS AYYYYY, YOOOOO ESSSSS AYYYYY, YOOOOO ESSSSS AYYYYY" nationalistic trip unconvincingly veiled in some passive-aggressive, disingenous victim act.
      Believe it or not, most people seem to like what I have to say. The man you're defending, Clegg, used to like my posts until I said something bad about Mikkel Kessler. I remember him saying "you're better than this" or something like that. Was about a year ago or so.

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      • Check
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        #73
        Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
        I already laid out why the double-standard you cite doesn't really exist.


        But, even if Dirrell was robbed blind (humoring you), Cleg was still right - you'd whine all day about that, but you'd never protest rip-offs that happen on American soil, such as the one we saw last night, and will only even acknowledge that there may have been some small injustice undertaken when put under the kind of duress you're being put under in this thread.





        I love how you endlessly protest that charge of being ridiculously biased towards American fighters, BTW.
        Once again, not true! Earlier I brought up a real robbery, Santa Cruz V Casa. Wait, whats next, you're gonna say it doesn't count because they aren't American? I'm fair to EVERYONE.

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        • Forza
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          #74
          dont remember much about froch-dirrel except for dirrel getting slapped around and running from froch the last 5 rounds

          but yeah this site hates current african americans

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          • mani1
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            #75
            Originally posted by Check
            There is no doubt that this site is full of people that hate the United States and the people that live there. Last nights fight is just another example as to the hatred and the bias of many posters on this site.

            Most argue that Lucas won his fight last night because he landed more and landed the harder punches, right? Yeah, that's the argument BUT the same people arguing that statement were the same people DEFENDING Carl Froch when he was awarded the victory against Andre Dirrell. Post after post was made saying you couldn't win that fight, in Frochs home, that you have to clearly beat him. Well, the problem is Dirrell did exactly what Lucas did last night. Not only did he out land Froch but majority of the heavy punches were also landed by Dirrell. The double standard still exists and part of me wishes Americans still cared about boxing. Most of you Europeans wouldn't even watch boxing if that was the case because your fighters would be looked at as stepping stones, and you wouldn't be able to **** ride.
            Froch lost and so did Devon in my opinion.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Check
              Believe it or not, most people seem to like what I have to say. The man you're defending, Clegg, used to like my posts until I said something bad about Mikkel Kessler. I remember him saying "you're better than this" or something like that. Was about a year ago or so.
              I don't like you as a poster. I have told you before that you're a Nationalistic idiot. Your shtick and is having a Nationalistic agenda. You go on and crap on Canadian fighters, to European fighters. I don't think you're a good poster at all.

              But, then again to be fair. I'm pretty sure I'm not everybody cup of tea poster either. There's people who don't like me as a poster it is what it is.

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              • PRINCE O' PROSE
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                #77
                Originally posted by Check
                Once again, not true! Earlier I brought up a real robbery, Santa Cruz V Casa. Wait, whats next, you're gonna say it doesn't count because they aren't American? I'm fair to EVERYONE.
                I should have stated it more explicitly, but you knew what I meant, ie. rip-offs that benefit a US fighter.



                You've got no loyalty in a matchup like Santa Cruz-Casamayor, so ofc you'd call that impartially (to the best of your ability).

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                • Clegg
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Check
                  That post right there explains it all to me. You guys are so fixated on one thing that it blinds you. In NO way, shape or form am I justifying Alexander getting the victory. What I am doing is pointing out the double standard against many Americans(not Alexander in this case, but Dirrell). I could give two ****s about Devon Alexander. Truth be told, I don't even LIKE that many boxers. I certainly don't like all American fighters.
                  You need your memory tested. As I keep pointing out, most posters on here scored the fight for Dirrell and there were a ridiculous number of threads calling the fight a robbery.

                  Not only that, but most of the people who scored the fight for Froch were Froch fans. They weren't pro-US or anti-US, they were just favouring their guy.

                  You are complaining about a double standard that either doesn't widely exist or just wasn't evident in the responses to the two fights you're using as examples.

                  Another thing I'll throw in: From (roughly speaking) Mayweather-Hatton through to Froch-Dirrell, there was a lot of US vs UK threads, arguments and insults. Meanwhile, the Pinoys didn't get involved, either being more sensible or saving their ******ity for the Phillipines vs Mexico race arguments that were going on at the same time. Nowadays, it seems like a lot of the anti-US and anti-black threads are made by Pac fans.

                  My point is, most of the people who are using last night's fight to make whatever threads/comments it is that have gotten under your skin probably didn't even pay attention to Froch-Dirrell at the time and were either not fans of the sport or too busy making jokes about JMM being gay or whatever.
                  Last edited by Clegg; 06-26-2011, 06:17 PM.

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                  • Check
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I don't like you as a poster. I have told you before that you're a Nationalistic idiot. Your shtick and is having a Nationalistic agenda. You go on and crap on Canadian fighters, to European fighters. I don't think you're a good poster at all.

                    But, then again to be fair. I'm pretty sure I'm not everybody cup of tea poster either. There's people who don't like me as a poster it is what it is.
                    What Canadian fighters do I **** on? Pascal because I said Dawson ran out of time? Canadians don't even have many fighters so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bute is sheltered and doesn't fight anyone.....These are all common sense. I'm not ****ting on anyone.

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                    • PRINCE O' PROSE
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Check
                      Believe it or not, most people seem to like what I have to say. The man you're defending, Clegg, used to like my posts until I said something bad about Mikkel Kessler. I remember him saying "you're better than this" or something like that. Was about a year ago or so.
                      There are a few demented souls who think like you, for sure.


                      Many quality posters regard you as something of a joke, though, as evidenced by this thread.


                      He was probably just mistakenly thinking you could be reasoned with at the time.

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