It's pretty clear that only certain rules apply to certain fights here.

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  • PRINCE O' PROSE
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    #51
    I could never knock Kev, because he's a swell cat, and I think he, not even consciously, has just mis-allied himself slightly with someone else's wrongheaded cause in this one.



    But Check is getting deservedly merked.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Alexander could have won 5 of the first six rounds excluding 4~ he was landing more, throwing more and landing more head shots. Matthysse was landing good body shots which set up rounds 7 and 8 but he was unable to finish the job, in rounds 9 and 10.

      Rounds are won whether they are won close or by a lot unless you are throwing Matthysse a 10-8 round
      Devon domimated round 9, lucas CLEaRLY won 10, 7, 8, and 2 points for 4. Those are indisputable IMO. Your posts are saying that lucas only put im real work for 3 rds, well alexander only had 1 dominant rd. I think that is reflective of how the fight went down.

      He was definitely not throwing more every rd for the first 6-especially not rd 6- which i find very difficult to argue for alex.

      I thought alex won 1,2,5,9.

      If you gave alex 5 or the first 6, i would say you arecompletely biased.

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      • Check
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        #53
        Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
        I could never knock Kev, because he's a swell cat, and I think he, not even consciously, has just mis-allied himself slightly with someone else's wrongheaded cause in this one.



        But Check is getting deservedly merked.
        I'm not getting anything. Clegg's whole argument is that the fight is old and because Dirrell ran backwards, it isn't the same fight, but he is wrong. It was the same fight. One man landed more shots, one man landed crisper shots, one man threw more punches. The only difference is Lucas is celebrated on this site and everyone is screaming robbery at the top of their lungs and Dirrell was called a coward and doesn't deserve to beat the hometown fighter.

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        • -Kev-
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          #54
          Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
          I could never knock Kev, because he's a swell cat, and I think he, not even consciously, has just mis-allied himself slightly with someone else's wrongheaded cause in this one.



          But Check is getting deservedly merked.
          Funny after this post, I didn't know what you meant, then I thought some one probably dissed me and I just missed it. I see it's Clegg, the same guy who sent me a friend request not too long ago, which I accepted. Thanks for this post MIB, or else I would have never read Clegg's post.


          Clegg: I am not Check's **** in arms, we were actually just debating in the lounge in disagreement right now. I am a flattered that you remember posts I make, but honestly I don't remember any posts you make, so I don't really have a comeback for you, my dear e-friend

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          • jrosales13
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            #55
            Originally posted by Check
            Why, because Devon went toe to toe with him? Devon is an idiot and didn't fight his gameplan. He let his opponent dictate his fighting style and that is why he won't accomplish anything. Dirrell despite fighting a guy that is a bully in the ring, didn't let that happen. Andre fought a smart fight and that is why he should of been awarded the victory. Had Andre did was Devon did, he would of been kayoed.
            No not at all. I actually enjoy a good schooling. I'm a big fan of the sweet science aspect of the sport.

            But, I like Devon performance more so. Because, out of Froch, Alexander, Dirrell, and Matthysse. Only one attempted to give head throughout the fight.

            Whether it was nervous energy, first big fight, or whatever. That was ugly to watch.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #56
              Originally posted by Check
              You better watch what you say boy! If you say anything good about an American fighter they call you nationalistic and they threaten to beat you senseless if you step a foot into their country.
              Where do you come up with this shi t??????? You should seek help in your life.

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              • Jack Napier
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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                No not at all. I actually enjoy a good schooling. I'm a big fan of the sweet science aspect of the sport.

                But, I like Devon performance more so. Because, out of Froch, Alexander, Dirrell, and Matthysse. Only one attempted to give head throughout the fight.

                Whether it was nervous energy, first big fight, or whatever. That was ugly to watch.
                :laugh::laugh:

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                  Devon domimated round 9, lucas CLEaRLY won 10, 7, 8, and 2 points for 4. Those are indisputable IMO. Your posts are saying that lucas only put im real work for 3 rds, well alexander only had 1 dominant rd. I think that is reflective of how the fight went down.

                  He was definitely not throwing more every rd for the first 6-especially not rd 6- which i find very difficult to argue for alex.

                  I thought alex won 1,2,5,9.

                  If you gave alex 5 or the first 6, i would say you arecompletely biased.
                  So what those moments didn't seal the fight he needed to do more and he didn't, just because he won rounds big doesn't make him any more the victor.

                  Watch the first 6 rounds some are close but Alexander didn't get blown out of any of them excluding 4, he easily could have won the rest as he was doing more flashy work, them being close or not doesn't matter. I still don;t see round 10 as any sort of decisive victory for Matthysse.

                  In boxing 6 small victories out does 3 big victories and a small one~ unless you are giving him an extra 10-8 round
                  Last edited by The Gambler1981; 06-26-2011, 05:47 PM.

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Check
                    I'm not getting anything. Clegg's whole argument is that the fight is old and because Dirrell ran backwards, it isn't the same fight, but he is wrong. It was the same fight. One man landed more shots, one man landed crisper shots, one man threw more punches. The only difference is Lucas is celebrated on this site and everyone is screaming robbery at the top of their lungs and Dirrell was called a coward and doesn't deserve to beat the hometown fighter.
                    It was the same fight..One man landed more shots, oje man landed cripser shots, one man threw more shots.

                    ^ this is check's argument as to why the two fights are the same. Lol

                    And gambler, you are the ONLY person ive run across that didnt give lucas rd 10 clearly.

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                    • Bring It On
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      That's okay, for whoever had Mataysay over Alexander, I have nothing against that. It's calling it a robbery or a "clear" victory. But then turning around and calling a much wider fight[in Dirrell's favor] a close fight.


                      Honestly, whoever won last night fight, it was only by 1 or 2 points=not a clear win in any way shape or form.

                      I had Dirrell winning 8 god damn rounds, and still don't call it a highway robbery.
                      I agree with that, I scored it 95-94 Matthysse like Lederman, but I mean, there were a couple of close rounds, you could make a case for 95-94 Alexander.

                      I agree that the term "robbery" is used way too much on this forum.

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