It's pretty clear that only certain rules apply to certain fights here.

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #81
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    This would be valid if alexander landed the flashier more frequent blows in even 5 of the first 6 rounds, which he didnt. Alexander did the scorijg work while lucas punished him? So he wasnt scoring while punishing alexander? Only "flashy" work scores now?

    You can keep the lecture stuff like "this isnt flipping a coin". And all the winning a close rd is the same as winning a wide rd, i know that shi t. Ive been watching boxing for decades.

    I brought it up becsuse you said mathysse only did work in 4, 7, 8. Which is total bullshi t.
    He was landing more head shot through six rounds, throwing more shots and landing more overall, he was scoring while Matthysse worked the body that set up his later success.


    I just watched the fight he was putting in work to slow down Alexander and it worked but Alexander was doing the better scoring work until round 7 with the exception of 4. Was it a huge advantage no, but he was doing more some of the rounds were close though.

    Score it how you want though I don't really care, it is easy enough to give Matthysse the fight

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #82
      I'm an NY guy and I had Froch beating Dirrell,and Matt's beating Alexander..

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #83
        I don't remember Mattysse running, holding excessively, landing ineffective slaps all night, and falling to the canvas intentionally to avoid rough inside fighting.

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        • PRINCE O' PROSE
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          #84
          Originally posted by Clegg
          You need your memory tested. As I keep pointing out, most posters on here scored the fight for Dirrell and there were a ridiculous number of threads calling the fight a robbery.

          Not only that, but most of the people who scored the fight for Froch were Froch fans. They weren't pro-US or anti-US, they were just favouring their guy.

          You are complaining about a double standard that either doesn't widely exist or just wasn't evident in the responses to the two fights you're using as examples.
          TBF, as I recall, there were some impartial observers who felt Froch had a case for keeping his title against Dirrell. And a lot of those who cried "ROBBERY!!" were US homers or Dirrelldrones, just as a lot of those who pushed Froch's case hardest were UK homers and Frochites.



          Let's be real, how many here are saying Matthyse won because of special partiality to Matthyse or anti US bias? Very few. It's so blatant that even the US posters are calling it.



          Check's parellel between the two fights and their outcomes is just absurd, anyway, for reasons I stated pages back and that were swerved for trickiness.

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          • Check
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            #85
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            I don't remember Mattysse running, holding excessively, landing ineffective slaps all night, and falling to the canvas intentionally to avoid rough inside fighting.
            All just a few moments in a 36 minute fight. It still boils down to the fact that Dirrell still had time to outwork Froch, even with all those silly tactics. I also disagree with your slaps statement. If you looked at the most effective punches in that fight, Dirrell was doing majority of them.

            Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
            I mean, as I recall, there were some impartial observers who felt Froch had a case for keeping his title against Dirrell. And a lot of those who cried "ROBBERY!!" were US homers or Dirrelldrones, just as a lot of those who pushed Froch's case hardest were UK homers and Frochites.



            Let's be real, how many here are saying Matthyse won because of special partiality to Matthyse or anti US bias? Very few. It's so blatant that even the US posters are calling it.



            Check's parellel between the two fights and their outcomes is just absurd, anyway, for reasons I stated pages back and that were swerved for trickiness.
            No one is swerving your points. I read yours and you clearly know mine, no need to pick it apart when its been done through many posts, just not directly. I debate with everyone. I don't put people on ignore, and then decide to run into their threads later.

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            • PRINCE O' PROSE
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              #86
              Originally posted by Check
              I don't put people on ignore, and then decide to run into their threads later.
              Awwwh, Checky, I was just ****in' with ya that night. Plus, I wanted to give the thread a chance to grow in some other directions.



              DW, if I re-thread the Broner topic, I'll let you come in and play.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Check
                All just a few moments in a 36 minute fight. It still boils down to the fact that Dirrell still had time to outwork Froch, even with all those silly tactics. I also disagree with your slaps statement. If you looked at the most effective punches in that fight, Dirrell was doing majority of them.
                Who was looking pristine and who was bleeding at the end of that fight? I know that is not how fights are scored but Dirrell maybe landed 2-3 effective punches the whole fight and other than that just threw don't hit me punches off the backfoot he spent the fight trying to keep Froch from mauling him.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
                  Awwwh, Checky, I was just ****in' with ya that night. Plus, I wanted to give the thread a chance to grow in some other directions.



                  DW, if I re-thread the Broner topic, I'll let you come in and play.
                  They will just take it down because it's insensitive to less privileged people from the ******. I've never had one of my threads taken down because I'm not mean to people like that.

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                  • PRINCE O' PROSE
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Check
                    They will just take it down because it's insensitive to less privileged people from the ******. I've never had one of my threads taken down because I'm not mean to people like that.
                    Pfffft, if you say so.

                    If I put it in Global and promote it in my sig, those flashlight mods can't reach it.



                    "Not mean", my foot.

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                    • Clint650
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                      #90
                      problem here is that these fights dont resemble the other. Lucas was the agressor the whole fight, scored a knockdown, and had Alexander in trouble. Dirrell caught Froch with a nice left that had him stunned, and started to pick up the pace inthe later rounds but spent way too much time skipping away from Froch. Froch was never in the position that Devon fpound himself in, which was holding on for his life and praying for the bell the save him.

                      Froch won the fight, and Lucas should of won last night.

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