It's pretty clear that only certain rules apply to certain fights here.

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    #11
    Originally posted by -EAGLE-
    what the **** has this to do with anything?

    Mathysse won this damn fight go **** yourself, TROLL
    He may of but so did Dirrell. The same reasons people are pointing out why he won are the same reasons why Dirrell won. Dirrell fought on his back foot, using an effective jab and moving, Lucas pressed but both dominated where it matters most, the punch stats and damage. If you awarded Lucas the victory there is no excuse why Andre shouldn't of won either.

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    • Clyde Barrow
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      #12
      Who defended Froch? Even his own fans admit he clearly lost that fight to Dirrell. And I need to watch the Alexander fight still. But after what happened with Kotelnik and Bradley, I'll assume the robbery talk is legit. The kid is a choke artist.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Check
        He ran but still landed more and landed the crisp, more effective blows. It wasn't pretty but if you go strictly on who landed the better shots and who dished out more punishment, Dirrell won and won pretty easily. Each round was close and in majority of them Dirrell edged Froch and did slightly more in most. He may of ran for 2 and a half minutes each round but those 30 seconds he did more than what Froch was able to do in 3 minutes of chasing.
        thats cool bro. its all opinions at the end of the day. i wanted dirrell to win cuz i really cant stand froch. i just scored it like i saw it.

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        • Medved
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          #14
          Originally posted by Check
          He ran but still landed more and landed the crisp, more effective blows. It wasn't pretty but if you go strictly on who landed the better shots and who dished out more punishment, Dirrell won and won pretty easily. Each round was close and in majority of them Dirrell edged Froch and did slightly more in most. He may of ran for 2 and a half minutes each round but those 30 seconds he did more than what Froch was able to do in 3 minutes of chasing.
          he didnt land more and effective? dude wtf? he was throwing ARM punches that DID NO DAMAGE. Lucas was tagging him with huge shots and sent him down. Devon was punching so light he wouldnt have knocked out a woman. wtf?

          Lucas threw more, landed more, got the KD, he chased him around.

          Devon ran around for 10 rounds yelling UGH UGH UGH everytime he threw his pitter patter soft punches and hung on for dear life.

          Throwing a 4 punch combo that doesnt hit anything and grunting = effective punching

          Getting hit in the face and going down = effective punching.

          You wonder why people hate certain fighters? Because of posters like you who will never take their Horus shades off.

          You make me sick.

          Devon couldve been KD' in every round and throwing 5 punches a round and you still wouldve said "well he won the fight cuzz uhhh he is a slick boxer who avoided those shots and showed heart getting up, he should win because of his crisp running and dodging technique"

          GTFO this is Boxing not Dancing with the stars or tennis.

          This is the 2nd fight in a row at home he robs someone.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I'm an American and I think Froch beat Dirrell and that Matthysse beat Alexander.
            Grace me with your knowledge, oh wise one. Why did Dirrell lose but Lucas didn't? Both did the same thing when it comes to punching. Only difference was Dirrell moved back and Lucas pressed forward. Yet, most said the same **** that you have to clearly dominate the home fighter to get the victory.

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              #16
              Am English, And i thought Dirrell "Beat" Froch but was glad he didnt get the decision because of the way he "Fought", I havent seen the Devon-Lucas fight so i cannot comment on it, I woke up search the result on fight-news and at the bottom fight-news said they scored it to Devon, Didnt even know it was a controversial fight until i came on boxingscene, I like Devon and rated him highly in the past but he hasnt fulfill what i once thought would be a great run/career.
              Last edited by Ray*; 06-26-2011, 04:54 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                Who defended Froch? Even his own fans admit he clearly lost that fight to Dirrell. And I need to watch the Alexander fight still. But after what happened with Kotelnik and Bradley, I'll assume the robbery talk is legit. The kid is a choke artist.
                It was a very popular topic and argument defending the Froch nod at the time. Everyone seemed to think ring generalship was the key to winning a boxing event the week after following the fight and disregarded everything else. Now when Lucas wins(yes, he won ring generalship) a close fight the whole argument changes to clean and quantity of punching.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Medved
                  he didnt land more and effective? dude wtf? he was throwing ARM punches that DID NO DAMAGE. Lucas was tagging him with huge shots and sent him down. Devon was punching so light he wouldnt have knocked out a woman. wtf?

                  Lucas threw more, landed more, got the KD, he chased him around.

                  Devon ran around for 10 rounds yelling UGH UGH UGH everytime he threw his pitter patter soft punches and hung on for dear life.

                  Throwing a 4 punch combo that doesnt hit anything and grunting = effective punching

                  Getting hit in the face and going down = effective punching.

                  You wonder why people hate certain fighters? Because of posters like you who will never take their Horus shades off.

                  You make me sick.

                  Devon couldve been KD' in every round and throwing 5 punches a round and you still wouldve said "well he won the fight cuzz uhhh he is a slick boxer who avoided those shots and showed heart getting up, he should win because of his crisp running and dodging technique"

                  GTFO this is Boxing not Dancing with the stars or tennis.

                  This is the 2nd fight in a row at home he robs someone.
                  I think you read my post wrong. I wasn't saying Devon was landing clean and crisp. I was saying Andre was landing clean, crisp, and more quantity of punches against Froch. Dirrell clearly beat Froch but people used the excuse that you have to clearly beat the hometown fighter to get a win. Now it has changed once Lucas does the same thing.

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                    #19
                    Im American. Alexander clearly lost, and Dirrell won.

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                    • Clegg
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                      #20
                      You spend half of your time on here being a nationalistic moron, and the other half criticising other people for being nationalistic morons.

                      Maybe in your head it seems like your making a valid point or something, but you're not. You aren't even original. Less than 24 hours ago the pro-Euro/Eastern-Euro posters were crying about how "hey, people said Alexander beat Kotelnik but also that Macklin beat Sturm, how can that be?" Now you're doing the same thing but of course with a more American example.

                      Your nationalistic sensibilities are all offended and you're using an identical argument to one the other biased posters use. Who cares if Froch-Dirrell and Alexander-Matthyse didn't really look alike, eh? Who cares if different arguments were made in the scoring debates for each fight, right? You'll just go ahead and shoehorn any example into your argument even if it fits like a square peg in a round hole because that gives you the best crying opportunities.

                      When Froch beat Dirrell, this site went insane with ****** comments and every 5 seconds there was a new thread about what a robbery it was etc.

                      Your moaning about the anti-American stuff is no better or more worthwhile than Horus moaning about everyone being anti-black, Wlad Owns moaning about everyone being anti-white, one of the British idiots moaning about people being anti-UK, or Wazza moaning about people being anti-******. Considering that Lucas is from Argentina, all we need is some South American **** to show up all teary eyed and with a chip on his shoulder and we'd have the complete set.

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