Mayweather never fought a top 100 all-time great.

[hent]

Would you rank Hopkins higher than Jones? Hopkins dominated the middleweight division for years, beat almost every challenger put as his door step. I consider Hopkins to be the 2nd best MW of all time behind Monzon and after Hagler. Would you go as far to rank him higher than Jones? This is just a question btw.

Hopkins has to rank higher.

Jones would get KOed by Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Qawi and Matthew Saad Muhammad. He was just lucky they werent fighting when he was around.

[steeluv]

How do you know what I have seen or not?

I can give a solid account for most fighters on the list. Granted there are fighters on the list I haven't seen like Greb. But, I know quite a few things about Greb and seen the guys he has beat. And, know his resume that gives me a pretty good idea how beastly he was.

However, rankings is not really about skills and talent. But, more so about resume and accomplishments.

Bert should f himself how is Ray Leonard at only 25, because he thinks if ur olden day a slugger around his childhood or before, when defense skills were not developed to anywhere near today, had over 100 fights won championships in more than one weight division u qualify for a top twenty spot automatic or some **** like that

[Las Vegas,]

I would have them both in my Top 50 and I would personally have Roy higher but wouldn't be too mad if someone were to have Hopkins higher.

As for his Middleweight ranking I struggle to see an argument for him being in the Top 5 Middleweights of all time.

Really? Who is your top 5? Can you also give me a reason why he isn't ranked top 5 in your eyes?

[-Kev-]

So let me get this straight, all because Roy Jones moved up to HW he should be ranked super high. Right? Doesn't matter that he fought a subpar heavyweight ya know. Pacquiao should be top 5 then right? Comon man. Hopkins and Toney are the only "Top 100 ATG" wins he has and I even doubt Toney is top 100, because like you said "It's about resume and accomplishments" and not skill, and beating old Holyfield and Michael Nunn I doubt would rank you that high. **** man, according to your logic the Klitschkos should be top 30 aswell because of their "dominance" of the HW division for almost 10 years.

Comon man. Seriously? Kostya Tszyu should be top 50 aswell, he dominated the 140 pound division for years. According to your logic.

Toney also beat McCallum, he should have gotten the nod against Peter the first time, should have won against Griffin, he beat Tim Littles who was a top 10 SMW when Toney beat him, Reggie Johnson, undefeated Merqui Sosa, he stopped Iran Barkley, add the one's you mentioned Holyfield and Nunn and that's a very good resume. And I actually have all of these fights, except for the Reggie Johnson one.

[IronDanHamza]

Really? Who is your top 5? Can you also give me a reason why he isn't ranked top 5 in your eyes?

1. Monzon
2. Greb
3. Robinson
4. Hagler
5. Fitzsimmons

The reason why he isn't ranked in the Top 5 is because he resume does not come close to matching these fighters Middleweight accomplisments.

[hent]

Again obviously you don't understand my logic.



Is that really comparable to what Mosley did? Really?

You think Jones could beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Qawi and Matthew Saad Muhammad at LHW. Or go up to heavyweight and beat Ali ?

[Las Vegas,]

Again obviously you don't understand my logic.



Is that really comparable to what Mosley did? Really?

Yes, I understand. What he did was a great thing, but comon man. John Ruiz...instead of fighting likes of Lennox Lewis. He fought John Ruiz...a subpar HW champion who was hyped as the "Only man to knock down Evander Holyfield" Roy Jones was a 4-1 favorite for the fight...that pretty much told you everything you need to know now did it? Also, I said that Pacquiao moved up from Flyweight all the way up to WW something that is also rarely done in the history of boxing, does that mean Pac is top 5-10?

[Iamanidiot]

Castillo, Gatti, Judah, and Corales. None of these was a top 100 all time great.
Mosley and Marquez were but Wifebeater beat Mosley when Sugar Shane had just come off a world champion record of 18 months of inactivity. Marquez was 142 lbs. while Floydie was 158 lbs. Cheating by Floyd, obviously.

We give Floyd credit for a controversial split decision against De La Hoya before Wifebeater ducked her in the rematch.

Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito in favor of LOL Baldomir LOL.

You just went against your own thread title.

Close this dumb ass thread.

[IronDanHamza]

Bert should f himself how is Ray Leonard at only 25, because he thinks if ur olden day a slugger around his childhood or before, when defense skills were not developed to anywhere near today, had over 100 fights won championships in more than one weight division u qualify for a top twenty spot automatic or some **** like that

One of the greatest defensive fighters of all time retired in 1922.

[RubenSonny]

MAB didnt give Naseem a lesson. Naz won at least 4 rounds.

Khan proved that MAB doesnt have what it takes to beat a ****** who isnt shot. Morales was battered lol did you see his eye. Zahir Raheem took the overrated Morales to school.

Both guys get sparked by a Prime Naz.




LOL near prime. You know f#ck all.

Oh okay keep on trolling, you should cop a ban soon, then again this is boxingscene.