Mayweather never fought a top 100 all-time great.

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  • jrosales13
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    #61
    Originally posted by hent
    Are you saying Greb would stand a chance against someone like Sturm ?
    That's a H2H fantasy match up. It has nothing to do with ranking greatness.

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    • RubenSonny
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      #62
      Originally posted by hent
      Prime Naz kos every featherweight and below on that list.
      Yeah like Barrera.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Sugar Sting Ray
        I disagree 90% with the placement of almost all the names in Sugar's list. No way McLarnin is higher than Sugar Ray Leonard, Carlos Monzon, and Pernell Whitaker.

        Actually, I should be WTFing 90% of that dumb list. That list is basically a troll job on the part of Bert Randolph Sugar. There is nothing I hate more than trolls and trolling.
        Sugar shut up. Everyone here knows you haven't heard of most of the fighters on that list.

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        • letsgobrady
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          #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Can it be said that JMM force Pac to fight him at a catch-weight?
          marquez said he was willing to fight pac at the ww limit but team pac and his fans can't seem to ever agree on how big manny is most believe manny is maybe a natural jr welter so why didn't he just fight marquez at jr welter?mannys fans seem to bring up the fact that he only weighed 144 for the margarito fight as evidence that pac is small so if that is the case than why doesn't manny fight marquez at 140?

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          • steeluv
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            #65
            Bert Sugars lists I dont know how Bert comes up with these.. if u had no skill in a poor division in the olden days and could punch hard you are more likely to be high on the list than someone with the skills of sugar ray leonard just because you went in a couple of weight divisions and won a title or two beat ppl with no skills who had strong chins because everybody had a strong chin in the good old days

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            • Sugar Sting Ray
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              #66
              Originally posted by [KLTP]
              Sugar shut up. Everyone here knows you haven't heard of most of the fighters on that list.
              My Uncle had an extensive fight library when I was growing up. Not only do I know the names on that list, I've actually seen many of their fights. McLarnin and Canzoneri don't belong in the top 30.

              Pernell should be at least top 20. Sugar Ray Leonard top 15. Carlos Monzon top 20. Archie Moore top 10. Marciano and Dempsey top 30. Holmes and Benitez top 40.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Sugar Sting Ray
                My Uncle had an extensive fight library when I was growing up. Not only do I know the names on that list, I've actually seen many of their fights. McLarnin and Canzoneri don't belong in the top 30.

                Pernell should be at least top 20. Sugar Ray Leonard top 15. Carlos Monzon top 20. Archie Moore top 10. Marciano and Dempsey top 30. Holmes and Benitez top 40.
                Might aswell rank Joe Calslappy up there too.

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                • jrosales13
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by [KLTP]
                  Why do you rank Roy Jones so high then? Please explain.
                  I don't know because, he was the first one to come as close as anybody to accomplish something that only Fitzsimmons accomplish. Of course Fitzsimmons accomplishment was much greater cuz' it was the lineal while Roy was just World titles. And, that accomplishment is winning a title a MW, LHW, HW and then back to LHW.

                  And, not only his straight dominance and stranglehold throughout the decade. Held wins against solid fighters like Castro, Malinga, Hill, Harding, Gonzalez, Woods. And, then he beat guys like Hopkins, Tarver, Ruiz that's not too bad. And, of course the Toney win speak for itself.

                  He actually wasn't as terrible as he has been in the last 8 years.

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                  • hent
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny
                    Yeah like Barrera.
                    Barrera fought a Hamed that was over the hill. Im talking prime Naz. Nobody on that list could cope with a prime Naz.

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                    • Sugar Sting Ray
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by [KLTP]
                      Might aswell rank Joe Calslappy up there too.
                      Calslappy is top 70 in my book.

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