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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    I don't know because, he was the first one to come as close as anybody to accomplish something that only Fitzsimmons accomplish. Of course Fitzsimmons accomplishment was much greater cuz' it was the lineal while Roy was just World titles. And, that accomplishment is winning a title a MW, LHW, HW and then back to LHW.

    And, not only his straight dominance and stranglehold throughout the decade. Held wins against solid fighters like Castro, Malinga, Hill, Harding, Gonzalez, Woods. And, then he beat guys like Hopkins, Tarver, Ruiz that's not too bad. And, of course the Toney win speak for itself.

    He actually wasn't as terrible as he has been in the last 8 years.
    So let me get this straight, all because Roy Jones moved up to HW he should be ranked super high. Right? Doesn't matter that he fought a subpar heavyweight ya know. Pacquiao should be top 5 then right? Comon man. Hopkins and Toney are the only "Top 100 ATG" wins he has and I even doubt Toney is top 100, because like you said "It's about resume and accomplishments" and not skill, and beating old Holyfield and Michael Nunn I doubt would rank you that high. **** man, according to your logic the Klitschkos should be top 30 aswell because of their "dominance" of the HW division for almost 10 years.

    Comon man. Seriously? Kostya Tszyu should be top 50 aswell, he dominated the 140 pound division for years. According to your logic.

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      #72
      Originally posted by hent
      MAB didnt stand toe to toe with Naz like a Mexican is supposed to. Naz was a shot fighter at that stage though, Prime Naz kos MAB junior jones style. Khan taught MAB a lesson.

      Morales lost to Maidana who got beat by Khan.
      MAB give Naseem a Lesson.....a shot prince maybe.....
      Question though?.........MAB was shot against Khan?.......
      Morales was shot (in a close fight that i think was a draw) against a beast of a puncher that is maidana?

      Khan won but maidana make him run like a b1tch men....so stfu...morales almost won.....in a fight 2 division (at least) higher

      So kahn > Morales.......ABSOLUTELY NOT ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡......not even close......

      and triangles theories doesnt work in boxing

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        #73
        Originally posted by [KLTP]
        So let me get this straight, all because Roy Jones moved up to HW he should be ranked super high. Right? Doesn't matter that he fought a subpar heavyweight ya know. Pacquiao should be top 5 then right? Comon man. Hopkins and Toney are the only "Top 100 ATG" wins he has and I even doubt Toney is top 100, because like you said "It's about resume and accomplishments" and not skill, and beating old Holyfield and Michael Nunn I doubt would rank you that high. **** man, according to your logic the Klitschkos should be top 30 aswell because of their "dominance" of the HW division for almost 10 years.

        Comon man. Seriously? Kostya Tszyu should be top 50 aswell, he dominated the 140 pound division for years. According to your logic.
        What is super high?

        Obviously by your reply you do not understand my logic at all.

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          #74
          Originally posted by hent
          Barrera fought a Hamed that was over the hill. Im talking prime Naz. Nobody on that list could cope with a prime Naz.
          He was near-prime when Barrera spanked his ass.

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            #75
            Originally posted by [KLTP]
            So let me get this straight, all because Roy Jones moved up to HW he should be ranked super high. Right? Doesn't matter that he fought a subpar heavyweight ya know. Pacquiao should be top 5 then right? Comon man. Hopkins and Toney are the only "Top 100 ATG" wins he has and I even doubt Toney is top 100, because like you said "It's about resume and accomplishments" and not skill, and beating old Holyfield and Michael Nunn I doubt would rank you that high. **** man, according to your logic the Klitschkos should be top 30 aswell because of their "dominance" of the HW division for almost 10 years.

            Comon man. Seriously? Kostya Tszyu should be top 50 aswell, he dominated the 140 pound division for years. According to your logic.
            Roy Jones dominance consisited of Great, good and solid fighters.

            Something that Klitschko's and Tszyu has big holes in.

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              #76
              Originally posted by noekin3
              MAB give Naseem a Lesson.....a shot prince maybe.....
              Question though?.........MAB was shot against Khan?.......
              Morales was shot (in a close fight that i think was a draw) against a beast of a puncher that is maidana?

              Khan won but maidana make him run like a b1tch men....so stfu...morales almost won.....in a fight 2 division (at least) higher

              So kahn > Morales.......ABSOLUTELY NOT ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡......not even close......

              and triangles theories doesnt work in boxing
              MAB didnt give Naseem a lesson. Naz won at least 4 rounds.

              Khan proved that MAB doesnt have what it takes to beat a ****** who isnt shot. Morales was battered lol did you see his eye. Zahir Raheem took the overrated Morales to school.

              Both guys get sparked by a Prime Naz.


              Originally posted by RubenSonny
              He was near-prime when Barrera spanked his ass.
              LOL near prime. You know f#ck all.

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                #77
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Roy Jones dominance consisited of Great, good and solid fighters.

                Something that Klitschko's and Tszyu has big holes in.
                Would you rank Hopkins higher than Jones? Hopkins dominated the middleweight division for years, beat almost every challenger put as his door step. I consider Hopkins to be the 2nd best MW of all time behind Monzon and after Hagler. Would you go as far to rank him higher than Jones? This is just a question btw.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  What is super high?

                  Obviously by your reply you do not understand my logic at all.
                  I understood your logic. You're trying to twists things around. You claimed Roy Jones's dominance and his move up to HW with a few 2 great wins and a few solid ones somehow made him go up to a higher rank then #88. Let me ask you something, Sugar Shane Mosley dominated the LW division, moved up beat DLH twice(even though I think he lost the 2nd time) and has solid wins over Vargas, Collazo, and Margarito would you rank Sugar Shane near the heights of Roy?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by [KLTP]
                    Would you rank Hopkins higher than Jones? Hopkins dominated the middleweight division for years, beat almost every challenger put as his door step. I consider Hopkins to be the 2nd best MW of all time behind Monzon and after Hagler. Would you go as far to rank him higher than Jones? This is just a question btw.
                    I would have them both in my Top 50 and I would personally have Roy higher but wouldn't be too mad if someone were to have Hopkins higher.

                    As for his Middleweight ranking I struggle to see an argument for him being in the Top 5 Middleweights of all time.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by [KLTP]
                      I understood your logic. You're trying to twists things around. You claimed Roy Jones's dominance and his move up to HW with a few 2 great wins and a few solid ones somehow made him go up to a higher rank then #88. Let me ask you something, Sugar Shane Mosley dominated the LW division, moved up beat DLH twice(even though I think he lost the 2nd time) and has solid wins over Vargas, Collazo, and Margarito would you rank Sugar Shane near the heights of Roy?
                      Again obviously you don't understand my logic.

                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      he was the first one to come as close as anybody to accomplish something that only Fitzsimmons accomplish. Of course Fitzsimmons accomplishment was much greater cuz' it was the lineal while Roy was just World titles. And, that accomplishment is winning a title a MW, LHW, HW and then back to LHW.

                      And, not only his straight dominance and stranglehold throughout the decade. Held wins against solid fighters like Castro, Malinga, Hill, Harding, Gonzalez, Woods. And, then he beat guys like Hopkins, Tarver, Ruiz that's not too bad. And, of course the Toney win speak for itself.
                      Is that really comparable to what Mosley did? Really?

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