Mayweather never fought a top 100 all-time great.

[Las Vegas,]

Look at the list?

I can't say it's a terrible list. I haven't seen alot of fighters on his list. You haven't either. So how exactly are you gonna judge his list and say it's terrible?

[IronDanHamza]

Since this is my 500th post, I'll give in to the pressure coming from those that have demanded my top 100 all time great. However, I am too lazy to do so. That's why I have here Bert Randolph Sugar's Brutally ****** list.

I will place Pacquiao, Floyd, and their opponents where I believe they belong APPROXIMATELY on this list. Along with other random comments.


Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Joe Louis
Harry Greb
Benny Leonard
Muhammad Ali - Manny Pacquiao (Ali should be number two)
Roberto Duran
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Mickey Walker
Tony Canzoneri
Gene Tunney
Rocky Marciano
Joe Gans
Sam Langford
Julio Cesar Chavez -WTF
Jimmy Wild
Stanley Ketchel
Barney Ross
Jimmy McLarnin -WTF
Archie Moore
Marcel Cerdan - WTF
Ezzard Charles
Sugar Ray Leonard -WTF
Joe Walcott
Jake LaMptta
Eder Jofre
Emile Griffith
Terry McGovern
George Foreman
Johnny Dundee
Jose Napoles
Pascual Perez
Billy Conn
Ruben Olivares
Joe Frazier
Tommy Loughran
Sandy Saddler
Kid Chocolate
Abe Atell
Evander Holyfield - Erik Morales
George Dixon
Maxie Rosenbloom
Larry Holmes - WTF
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Marvelous Marvin Hagler - Marco Antonio Barrera (Wow! What a dumb list)
Pernell Whitaker - WTF
Carlos Zarate
Thomas Hearns - Floyd Wifebeater (I didn't realize how ****** Sugar is)
Battling Nelson
Beau Jack
Ricardo Lopez
John L. Sullivan
Carlos Monzon - Juan Manuel Marquez (check out all of these high quality fighters way down here

Alexis Arguello
Carmen Basilio
Pete Herman
Charley Burley
Ike Williams
Kid Gavilan
Jack Britton
**** Tiger
Pancho Villa
Panama Al Brown
Bob Fitzsimmons
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Tiger Flowers
James J. Corbett
Tony Zale
Tommy Ryan
Georges Carpentier
Sonny Liston
"Kid" McCoy
Bob Foster
Freddie Welsh
Joe Jeannette - Oscar De La Hoya (Sugar should be shot)
Jim Driscoll
Jersey Joe Walcott
Peter Jackson
Ad Wolgast
Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
Manuel Ortiz
James J. Jeffries
Salvador Sanchez - WTF
Jimmy Barry
Carlos Ortiz
Roy Jones, Jr.
Wilfredo Gomez - Prime Shane Mosley (this is the worst P4P list ever)
Aaron Pryor
Bernard Hopkins
Mike Gibbons
Jack Delaney
Johnny Kilbane
Willie Ritchie
Wilfredo Benitez -Go to hell Bert Randolph Sugar. You suck!!!
Packey McFarland
Rocky Graziano
Lew Jenkins
Mike Tyson - WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF

Corrales, Gatti, Judah, and Castillo are somewhere between 150 and 400

Okay, I'm gonna throw up now. Sugar, fu#k you!!!!!

Why are you 'WTF'ing' at Mclarnin's place at #20 yet seem absolutely fine about J.Johnson, Dempsey and Marciano's abserdly high ranking?

These are clearly the most alarming rankings on the list.

Are you also trying to suggest Marquez is as great as Carlos Monzon?

[jrosales13]

whats a contradiction?

Can it be said that JMM force Pac to fight him at a catch-weight?

[IronDanHamza]

I can't say it's a terrible list. I haven't seen alot of fighters on his list. You haven't either. So how exactly are you gonna judge his list and say it's terrible?

Because it has Jack Johnson and Jack Demsey in the Top 10.

Has Ezzard Charles outside the Top 20.

Has Marciano inside the top 20.

Has Jake Lamotta above Carlos Monzon.

And doesn't even include Harold Johnson.

5 quickfire reasons why the list is abserd.

[jrosales13]

I can't say it's a terrible list. I haven't seen alot of fighters on his list. You haven't either. So how exactly are you gonna judge his list and say it's terrible?

How do you know what I have seen or not?

I can give a solid account for most fighters on the list. Granted there are fighters on the list I haven't seen like Greb. But, I know quite a few things about Greb and seen the guys he has beat. And, know his resume that gives me a pretty good idea how beastly he was.

However, rankings is not really about skills and talent. But, more so about resume and accomplishments.

[hent]

Since this is my 500th post, I'll give in to the pressure coming from those that have demanded my top 100 all time great. However, I am too lazy to do so. That's why I have here Bert Randolph Sugar's Brutally ****** list.

I will place Pacquiao, Floyd, and their opponents where I believe they belong APPROXIMATELY on this list. Along with other random comments.


Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Joe Louis
Harry Greb
Benny Leonard
Muhammad Ali - Manny Pacquiao (Ali should be number two)
Roberto Duran
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Mickey Walker
Tony Canzoneri
Gene Tunney
Rocky Marciano
Joe Gans
Sam Langford
Julio Cesar Chavez -WTF
Jimmy Wild
Stanley Ketchel
Barney Ross
Jimmy McLarnin -WTF
Archie Moore
Marcel Cerdan - WTF
Ezzard Charles
Sugar Ray Leonard -WTF
Joe Walcott
Jake LaMptta
Eder Jofre
Emile Griffith
Terry McGovern
George Foreman
Johnny Dundee
Jose Napoles
Pascual Perez
Billy Conn
Ruben Olivares
Joe Frazier
Tommy Loughran
Sandy Saddler
Kid Chocolate
Abe Atell
Evander Holyfield - Erik Morales
George Dixon
Maxie Rosenbloom
Larry Holmes - WTF
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Marvelous Marvin Hagler - Marco Antonio Barrera (Wow! What a dumb list)
Pernell Whitaker - WTF
Carlos Zarate
Thomas Hearns - Floyd Wifebeater (I didn't realize how ****** Sugar is)
Battling Nelson
Beau Jack
Ricardo Lopez
John L. Sullivan
Carlos Monzon - Juan Manuel Marquez (check out all of these high quality fighters way down here

Alexis Arguello
Carmen Basilio
Pete Herman
Charley Burley
Ike Williams
Kid Gavilan
Jack Britton
**** Tiger
Pancho Villa
Panama Al Brown
Bob Fitzsimmons
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Tiger Flowers
James J. Corbett
Tony Zale
Tommy Ryan
Georges Carpentier
Sonny Liston
"Kid" McCoy
Bob Foster
Freddie Welsh
Joe Jeannette - Oscar De La Hoya (Sugar should be shot)
Jim Driscoll
Jersey Joe Walcott
Peter Jackson
Ad Wolgast
Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
Manuel Ortiz
James J. Jeffries
Salvador Sanchez - WTF
Jimmy Barry
Carlos Ortiz
Roy Jones, Jr.
Wilfredo Gomez - Prime Shane Mosley (this is the worst P4P list ever)
Aaron Pryor
Bernard Hopkins
Mike Gibbons
Jack Delaney
Johnny Kilbane
Willie Ritchie
Wilfredo Benitez -Go to hell Bert Randolph Sugar. You suck!!!
Packey McFarland
Rocky Graziano
Lew Jenkins
Mike Tyson - WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF

Corrales, Gatti, Judah, and Castillo are somewhere between 150 and 400

Okay, I'm gonna throw up now. Sugar, fu#k you!!!!!

Prime Naz kos every featherweight and below on that list.

[hent]

How do you know what I have seen or not?

I can give a solid account for most fighters on the list. Granted there are fighters on the list I haven't seen like Greb. But, I know quite a few things about Greb and seen the guys he has beat. And, know his resume that gives me a pretty good idea how beastly he was.

However, rankings is not really about skills and talent. But, more so about resume and accomplishments.

Are you saying Greb would stand a chance against someone like Sturm ?

[NanaSucka]

I don't know if he ranked the fighters on skill or accomplishments.

[Sugar Sting Ray]

Why are you 'WTF'ing' at Mclarnin's place at #20 yet seem absolutely fine about J.Johnson, Dempsey and Marciano's abserdly high ranking?

These are clearly the most alarming rankings on the list.

Are you also trying to suggest Marquez is as great as Carlos Monzon?

I disagree 90% with the placement of almost all the names in Sugar's list. No way McLarnin is higher than Sugar Ray Leonard, Carlos Monzon, and Pernell Whitaker.

Actually, I should be WTFing 90% of that dumb list. That list is basically a troll job on the part of Bert Randolph Sugar. There is nothing I hate more than trolls and trolling.

[Las Vegas,]

How do you know what I have seen or not?

I can give a solid account for some fighters on the list. Granted there are fighters on the list I haven't seen like Greb. But, I know quite a few things about Greb and seen the guys he has beat. And, now his resume that gives me a pretty good idea how beastly he was.

However, rankings is not really about skills and talent. But, more so about resume and accomplishments.

Why do you rank Roy Jones so high then? Please explain.