Comments Thread For: Merchant on Mayweather-Ortiz, Pacquiao-Marquez, More

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That one sent me back a little.

That's just a tad...wrong.

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Ortiz AND Marg have slim to no chance at all of beating Floyd.

[WESS]

How many rounds do you think Prime Marg and Current Ortiz possibly win against Mayweather?

My number is 2-3 tops from both fighters.

Marghas no skills but only a chin. He has zero power now that he has been exposed. Did anyone see his joke fight in Mexico?

[jrosales13]

That one sent me back a little.

That's just a tad...wrong.

I don't blame anybody that thinks that way. Because, Margarito was so ignored during his prime. So they never saw the subtle things that made a prime Marg so dangerous.

Even in a losing effort. Marg would make things uncomfortable in the ring for anybody including the great Mayweather. His pressure would make any WW of that time fight in a manner they were not use to. Even if he lost he made you work your ass off in that ring.

To compare that to what Ortiz bring to the table is quite laughable. But, again Marg was just so ignored that they want to connect him to he likes of an inconsistent fighter like Ortiz.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ok again Iron, Jro and whoever else who wants to join.

How many rounds does Marg win and Ortiz win against Floyd in your opinion?

[jrosales13]

And, then you act to the fact that Floyd has grew into the WW division now. Unlike back then when he was still a very small WW.

Ortiz might start fast but will get discourage. There would be no discouraging of Marg. And, Floyd would be fighting someone who ends the fight just as strong as he does. Unlike Ortiz....

So to say garbage like Marg would have the same chance as Ortiz is laughable. But, then again I understand why such thoughts take place.

Hell Marg had a better chance in beating Floyd than what Judah did. And, that was my opinion before the fight, after the fight, hindsight, whatever.

Would I have favored Floyd to beat Marg? Sure, but did Marg had a better chance than Judah, Baldomir, Oscar, Hatton, JMM and Ortiz? You damn right.

[IronDanHamza]

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Ortiz AND Marg have slim to no chance at all of beating Floyd.

Ok again Iron, Jro and whoever else who wants to join.

How many rounds does Marg win and Ortiz win against Floyd in your opinion?

I don't see your point.

Just because they would probably not win more than 3 rounds each doesn't mean they have the same chance to win.

Who do you think has more chance to beat Floyd? The Mosley who beat Margarito or Margarito?

It's obviously Shane, regardless to the fact they both would win less than 4 rounds most likely.

The first 4 rounds were close between Mayweather and Judah but Corales didn't win a single round against Floyd. Which one had a better chance of winning? Obviously Corales.

You see how flawed the 'they would both win no more than 3 rounds' logic is?

Margarito obviously had more of a chance to beat Floyd than Ortiz has now.

[GRUSTLER]

Did you read where it says it was pretty much off? If it was done and contracts were signed, then why would they have to re-work the contract as your link suggested?

Want to get technical huh? Ok, both teams had a verbal agreement and a contract that the Floyd/Zab fight was going to happen and that's why Floyd still fought Zab after Baldomir because both had an obligation to make the fight happen. The only issue Floyd had was that Judah should get paid less being that he lost the undisputed WW title. Anyway, you don't have to reply back because a contract was in play so you still look ******...

Judah’s promoter Don King and Mayweather’s promoter Bob Arum found a way to rework the contracts so that the fight could go on. Judah went from making a guaranteed $3 million to $1 million plus a percentage of profits and was simply happy to find himself immediately back in the spotlight following the Baldomir debacle.

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[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I don't see your point.

Just because they would probably not win more than 3 rounds each doesn't mean they have the same chance to win.

Who do you think has more chance to beat Floyd? The Mosley who beat Margarito or Margarito?

It's obviously Shane, regardless to the fact they both would win less than 4 rounds most likely.

The first 4 rounds were close between Mayweather and Judah but Corales didn't win a single round against Floyd. Which one had a better chance of winning? Obviously Corales.

You see how flawed the 'they would both win no more than 3 rounds' logic is?

Margarito obviously had more of a chance to beat Floyd than Ortiz has now.

If they both win no ore than 4 rounds then they both have the same chance.

8-4 no matter how we slice it. Is a loss.

[jrosales13]

Want to get technical huh? Ok, both teams had a verbal agreement and a contract that the Floyd/Zab fight was going to happen and that's why Floyd still fought Zab after Baldomir because both had an obligation to make the fight happen. The only issue Floyd had was that Judah should get paid less being that he lost the undisputed WW title. Anyway, you don't have to reply back because a contract was in play so you still look ******...

After Judah lost to a journeyman. Could Floyd pick a different opponent yes or no?

Keep in mind that they were looking to fight Cory Spinks after Judah lost to Baldo.

[GRUSTLER]

I don't see your point.

Just because they would probably not win more than 3 rounds each doesn't mean they have the same chance to win.

Who do you think has more chance to beat Floyd? The Mosley who beat Margarito or Margarito?

It's obviously Shane, regardless to the fact they both would win less than 4 rounds most likely.

The first 4 rounds were close between Mayweather and Judah but Corales didn't win a single round against Floyd. Which one had a better chance of winning? Obviously Corales.

You see how flawed the 'they would both win no more than 3 rounds' logic is?

Margarito obviously had more of a chance to beat Floyd than Ortiz has now.

Where were Margarito/Cotto ranking wise in the WW division when Floyd fought Zab Judah? (Former Undisputed WW champion and WBA and IBF champion after Baldomir loss) and Carlos Baldomir? (Ring and WBC Champion)
If Arum would have accepted the offer to make the Oscar fight for Floyd, then Margarito and Cotto would have got it. Still don't understand why people blame Floyd for that, when Arum has been keeping fights from happening then and still to this day. If Margarito did have a chance it would have been because of the possibility that he had an illegal substance in his gloves. All in all, I think Oscar at 154 was more of a challenge for Floyd then Margarito would have been at 147. Paul Williams boxed around Margarito and beat him with movement and angles. I can only imagine what Floyd would have done to Margarito. Would have been like Baldomir.