Comments Thread For: Merchant on Mayweather-Ortiz, Pacquiao-Marquez, More

[HandSpeed303]

um speed, i remember floyd was talking about fighting spadafora and getting clowned for it real bad.

Well that's great and all, but I never heard any fan say that at the time Spady was calling for Floyd.

[jrosales13]

Why is Judah rank being mention? Mosley was ranked highly by the same publication and it doesn't change the fact the Pac fight with Mosley was straight garbage fight that shouldn't of happen.

[WESS]

Mosley drew with a reality star. Judah lost to a journeyman...how is different?

You keep talking about issues with the Margarito fight. Like if we're talking about the Baldomir fight.

Are you confused?

We talking about the fight with Judah. And, the options Floyd had but still went with the garbage waste of time fight with Judah.

Mosley drew with a reality star yes, but he ALSO lost almost every second of every round vs Mayweather. Judah lost one fight to Baldo. Its not like he lost back to back while pushing 39 years old. Where talking about a prime/young Judah who lost one fight to a fighter that hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade. Meantime, Floyd's the newbie at WW.

btw, you asked about the Marg fight 2X I believe.

At the end of the day the fans got the Judah fight and like always they weren't satisfied in the timing because of the previous fight Judah had with Baldo. It wasn't like Mosley's situation who had lost one fight, drew with a reality TV star, nearly turning 40 etc etc..... Sorry you cant compare Mayweather Judah to Pac Mosley.

[HandSpeed303]

some of the people you bring up are the same people who said floyd was ducking ricky hatton. then when floyd fought hatton and disposed him, the same people said hatton was no threat. but i watch pac in absolute joke fights and the press lets him and top rank get away with this crap. and yet critique floyd for almost every fight he takes. double standard?

Are you saying that I have a double standard?

I can't believe my words are being taken out of context this way...

Dude said that even after Baldi beat Zab, "everybody" still wanted the fight. No, everybody didn't. I just put Kenny into the post cause the there is video of him being critical of the choice. That is all Kenny had to do with the post.

I have not once mentioned other fighters, or fights in the post to Wess. he keeps bringing them up, not me.

I had a problem with the use of the word "everyone"...I never once said I had a problem with Floyd fighting Zab after a loss. I just know for a fact, "everyone" wasn't still interested in that fight after the loss. Hell, I'm pretty sure that if Zab was not allowed to keep his belt after the fight, the Floyd fight may not have happened.

[WESS]

Bro, you are really missing the point here...

I am speaking about your use of the word "everyone", nothing else. I then provided Brian Kenny as a reference cause there is vidoe of the exchange between him and Floyd about the fight choice. I also said there were other experts, and fans that were turn off cause of the lose.

I all reality, you are assume I have given flak to Floyd about who he chooses to fight. I have not.

Matter of fact, you don't even know how AI feel about the situation. You said "everyone", and you would be wrong.

Also, please keep in mind my remarks are post Bladi.

Ok I'll take back everyone as you seem to assume I mean every single person in the world... I'm talking about every fight fan out there wanted the fight until Judah lost to Baldo. ALL they fans (not everyone in the world) got what they wanted just not when they wanted it which goes back to my point that has been Floyds case for sometime.

It was with Judah, Hatton, Hoya, Mosley and will be with Pac. Funny thing is, as soon as there's a new champ (Ortiz) and Floyd fights him right away, its considered garbage (by the extreme pac fans of course).

[mrjoeblive]

Are you saying that I have a double standard?

I can't believe my words are being taken out of context this way...

Dude said that even after Baldi beat Zab, "everybody" still wanted the fight. No, everybody didn't. I just put Kenny into the post cause the there is video of him being critical of the choice. That is all Kenny had to do with the post.

I have not once mentioned other fighters, or fights in the post to Wess. he keeps bringing them up, not me.

I had a problem with the use of the word "everyone"...I never once said I had a problem with Floyd fighting Zab after a loss. I just know for a fact, "everyone" wasn't still interested in that fight after the loss. Hell, I'm pretty sure that if Zab was not allowed to keep his belt after the fight, the Floyd fight may not have happened.

hold on speed. let me clarify. when i say double standard, im talking about the media not you. i shoud have made myself clear. i have no problem with your post.

[jrosales13]

Mosley drew with a reality star yes, but he ALSO lost almost every second of every round vs Mayweather. Judah lost one fight to Baldo. Its not like he lost back to back while pushing 39 years old. Where talking about a prime/young Judah who lost one fight to a fighter that hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade. Meantime, Floyd's the newbie at WW.

btw, you asked about the Marg fight 2X I believe.

At the end of the day the fans got the Judah fight and like always they weren't satisfied in the timing because of the previous fight Judah had with Baldo. It wasn't like Mosley's situation who had lost one fight, drew with a reality TV star, nearly turning 40 etc etc..... Sorry you cant compare Mayweather Judah to Pac Mosley.

He lost to a F'ing journeyman. He was coming off a lost to a journeyman. There was any in between tune up. It was straight up after a lost to a journeyman. It made it garbage waste of time fight just like the Mosley fight. It shouldn't of happened.

Yes Marg was an option instead of Judah. You keep mentioning points that had nothing to do at this time. What you're stating has to do when the Baldo fight took place. But, that's irrelevant cuz' we not talking about the Baldo fight. But, the Judah fight. Spinks was also an option. Don't know why but he was and Maweather team was pushing this until Judah came on and said he would take less money.

Yes you can compare garbage waste of time fight with garbage waste of time fight.

Only a ****rider would try to separate the 2.

[WESS]

Why is Judah rank being mention? Mosley was ranked highly by the same publication and it doesn't change the fact the Pac fight with Mosley was straight garbage fight that shouldn't of happen.

Right, Judah had one fight, it wasn't like he was completely and utterly destroyed, old or shop worn. It was a prime Judah that lost one fight. He was no different than he was before he lost to Baldo. Floyd (surprisingly at the time) would still have whooped both of them.

Will the world shoot down a Mayweather Pac fight if Mayweather or Pac lose a fight between now and when they fight? Especially if its only ONE fight in between and not a course of back to back fights of looking like shyt and just getting old and showing up for a pay check as Mosley clearly did.

I see your point but your giving too much credit to Pac vs Mosley. 3 months went by when Judah got into the ring with Floyd. 2 years went by before Mosley got into the ring with Pac.

[jrosales13]

Wess...You're going by who...But, more importantly than who is when.

[jrosales13]

Right, Judah had one fight, it wasn't like he was completely and utterly destroyed, old or shop worn. It was a prime Judah that lost one fight. He was no different than he was before he lost to Baldo. Floyd (surprisingly at the time) would still have whooped both of them.

Will the world shoot down a Mayweather Pac fight if Mayweather or Pac lose a fight between now and when they fight? Especially if its only ONE fight in between and not a course of back to back fights of looking like shyt and just getting old and showing up for a pay check as Mosley clearly did.

I see your point but your giving too much credit to Pac vs Mosley. 3 months went by when Judah got into the ring with Floyd. 2 years went by before Mosley got into the ring with Pac.

If Pac loses to a Zaveck type fighter. Who the **** would still want to Floyd-Pac.

More importantly than who is when man.

I swear extremist Floyd fans like you are just as pathetic as extremist Pac fans. My goodness excuses after excuses.