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  • #41
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post

    Get Freddie Roach to train him.

    Get Alex Ariza to get him in top condition

    Be real bro.

    Work on the right hook and over hand right.

    OVER RIGHT HAND??? JAB?

    Use the lead straight left.

    Use his footwork to keep on the outside of Mayweather's left foot.

    YES

    Left to the body when Floyd throws the straight right.

    WHY NOT THE RIGHT HOOK?

    Watch for Mayweather's punch and grab move, and always step back first before countering the straight right.

    NO. He can slip the straight right and counter with a JAB TO THE BODY and then a left hook to the head or body depending on where the action is.

    Don't get involved in energy sapping wrestling matches with Floyd.

    YES

    Fight on the outside, keep moving to keep Floyd off balance, in posistion to counter Floyds jab and keeping away from the straight right to make Floyd overstrecth with this punch.

    YES

    Fight the first two minutes at a slow pace let Floyd come to him and the last minute, high pressure and try and back Floyd up.

    NO he should fight at a constant pace and pressure in spots stepping in with the jab

    Look for the uppercut when Floyd is hurt, he will try to hold up, so step back stay way and catch him with the uppercut on the way in.
    SET THE UPPERCUT UP WITH THE JAB. Ortiz left hook is better to the body or the head.

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    • #42
      Vic has to avoid the right and get on the inside. Its very important that he doesnt waste punches inside and is very accurate.

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      • #43
        Sorry to hit some of you with REALITY!


        But Mayweather is going to play with this kid in that ring, Ortiz is going to run into Check Hooks and Lead Rights ALL NIGHT...I actually WOULDN'T be shocked if Mayweather STOPS HIM by catching him with something he doesn't see coming...for some reason I keep thinking Mayweather vs Baldomir when I see people talk about this fight, people was hyping that fight up also and say "this will be a tough fight for Mayweather blah blah blah" then when it became a one sided fight Larry Merchant and the others at HBO got all upset and started talking negatively about Mayweather

        Ortiz defense is HORRIBLE and he has absolutely NO HEAD MOVEMENT and his speed is OVERRATED, yes he has SOME SPEED but he is not fast enough to keep up with someone like Mayweather, Berto had the speed advantage in that fight but Berto has absolutely NO RING IQ, Berto get hit with some good shots then he wants to Brawl

        Like others posted, he has a PUNCHERS CHANCE and that is probably all, or he could hope Mayweather is extremely rusty and he looks his age against him, but sadly even a RUSTY Mayweather is better then Ortiz
        Last edited by sicko; 06-15-2011, 05:02 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Ortiz should not jab, it will be up against Floyd's jab and will get countered or blocked, the right hook counter from the southpaw stance is the punch he needs.

          IF FLOYD BLOCKS ORTIZ CAN THOW TO THE BODY AND THEN STEP OUTSIDE. Ortiz has the benifit of throwing his jab over floyds since Ortiz is taller.

          And when Floyd drops that left throw the overhand right.

          Never happen. Ortiz has to set up his shots with a fast burst of 2-3 punches then get out. He'll be doing good if he sets up the last shot.

          His footwork is key never let Floyd get set, but this is a high energy tactic so Ortiz will have to be in top condition.
          That's true but he also has to maintain his energy level at a high pace if it goes too high he'll get tired and leave opening for Floyd.

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          • #45
            study the castillo fight.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by sicko View Post
              Sorry to hit some of you with REALITY!


              But Mayweather is going to play with this kid in that ring, Ortiz is going to run into Check Hooks and Lead Rights ALL NIGHT...I actually would be shocked if Mayweather STOPS HIM by catching him with something he does see coming...for some reason I keep thinking Mayweather vs Baldomir when I see people talk about this fight

              Ortiz defense is HORRIBLE and he has absolutely NO HEAD MOVEMENT and his speed is OVERRATED, yes he has SOME SPEED but he is not fast enough to keep up with someone like Mayweather, Berto had the speed advantage in that fight but Berto has absolutely NO RING IQ, Berto get hit with some good shots then he wants to Brawl

              Like others posted, he has a PUNCHERS CHANCE and that is probably all, or he could hope Mayweather is extremely rusty and he looks his age against him, but sadly even a RUSTY Mayweather is better then Ortiz
              Sorry to hit you with some reality but the thread is: What do Ortiz have to do to win?

              Not "he's going to lose blah blah blah"

              read then comment!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by A LA CHINGADA View Post
                study the castillo fight.

                You honestly think people haven't? That is useless because Mayweather has improved as a fighter since then

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Dudley View Post
                  Sorry to hit you with some reality but the thread is: What do Ortiz have to do to win?

                  Not "he's going to lose blah blah blah"

                  read then comment!

                  OK THEN, My answer to the question is obvious.....NOTHING!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by sicko View Post
                    OK THEN, My answer to the question is obvious.....NOTHING!


                    Ortiz has to do nothing to beat Mayweather?

                    You really don't rate Floyd.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Ortiz has to do nothing to beat Mayweather?

                      You really don't rate Floyd.
                      Ok since you want to be childish...IT IS NOTHING HE CAN DO!


                      IS THAT BETTER?

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