What do Ortiz have to do to win?

[Dudley]

The points about pressuring floyd are correct. Just remember Castillo was a far better and more complete fighter at that point then Vic is now.

but it has to be intelligent pressure. not constant but a pressure that keeps you aware of that your in a fight and can crest as well as ebb. it must maintain a rhythm at appropriate times in the fight when Ortiz initiates then with his jab. then get's out with minimal damage. Ortiz has to throw first but still maintain a balance with his energy to react to the response of Mayweather's offense. Castillo was stalking cutting off the rig that's a start.

but i think we also have to figure is that Floyd was injured that fight. He has a bum Rotator cuff and still won.

[sweetpea87]

Knock him out, there's no chance of Ortiz out boxing him.

[Heru]

Keep the fight on the inside and his great combinations flowing...

Because of Floyd's relaxed posture, defense, and sharpshooting on the inside, people tend to overlook the fact that his opponents do better on the inside and actually win rounds.

Jesus Chavez, Augustus, and JL Castillo employed this strategy and it worked for them, Ortiz is a southpaw (better offensive angles for the shoulder roll) with solid speed, power, and explosiveness in his combinations. Ortiz on the inside letting go 2s, 3s, 4s, and 5s is a problem, he's going to get through, especially if he's mixing in body shots in the combos.

Floyd went out of character to employ hitting and holding to prevent Hatton from fighting on the inside because he didn't want to go through the inside fighting hassle again (hasn't really taken part in it since Castillo I, unless it's against a Brusselles level opponent). But unlike Ricky, Victor is taller, bigger, and possibly stronger than Mayweather, so he might be able to work his way out of any clinches if Mayweather wants to go that route.

If the fight is fought mostly on the outside or at mid range, Ortiz gets picked apart, but if Ortiz is able to keep the fight on the inside, we'll be seeing one of the best high-profile fights we've ever seen live and a possible upset.

[Dudley]

Knock him out, there's no chance of Ortiz out boxing him.

No no way but he has to round out his abilities if he is going to capitalize on opportunities during the fight which he could turn into a brawl!

[The Gambler1981]

Fight better than he has ever fought before.

Then with that he needs to force the fight into a fight that benefits him, he can't play to a weakness but he needs to be really playing to his strengths if he can do that he has a shot.

[Dudley]

Keep the fight on the inside and his great combinations flowing...

Because of Floyd's relaxed posture, defense, and sharpshooting on the inside, people tend to overlook the fact that his opponents do better on the inside and actually win rounds.

Jesus Chavez, Augustus, and JL Castillo employed this strategy and it worked for them, Ortiz is a southpaw (better offensive angles for the shoulder roll) with solid speed, power, and explosiveness in his combinations. Ortiz on the inside letting go 2s, 3s, 4s, and 5s is a problem, he's going to get through, especially if he's mixing in body shots in the combos.

Floyd went out of character to employ hitting and holding to prevent Hatton from fighting on the inside because he didn't want to go through the inside fighting hassle again (hasn't really taken part in it since Castillo I, unless it's against a Brusselles level opponent). But unlike Ricky, Victor is taller, bigger, and possibly stronger than Mayweather, so he might be able to work his way out of any clinches if Mayweather wants to go that route.

If the fight is fought mostly on the outside or at mid range, Ortiz gets picked apart, but if Ortiz is able to keep the fight on the inside, we'll be seeing one of the best high-profile fights we've ever seen live and a possible upset.

We can't forget that Floyd had a bum rotator cuff that fight with Castillo.

I have a question do you agree the best way to work inside any fighter is to jab your way in. Floyd has been susceptible to guys with a GOOD JAB. Because it breaks up rhythm and cut's distance to get object A closer to object B. If He can Jab he way in explode and get out unscathed then Ortiz has something that Floyd has to adjust too. This could lead to more openings or pressuring Floyd to do something out of character.

But i think banking on a fight that took place back in 2002 on a bad night is high hopes. Ortiz has to be consistent. I think his jab might be the ticket.

Thoughts?

[Control-]

Watch Ryan Rhodes tapes, then he'll learn how a skillful southpaw should fight.

[D4thincarnation]

Get Freddie Roach to train him.

Get Alex Ariza to get him in top condition

Work on the right hook and over hand right.

Use the lead straight left.

Use his footwork to keep on the outside of Mayweather's left foot.

Left to the body when Floyd throws the straight right.

Watch for Mayweather's punch and grab move, and always step back first before countering the straight right.

Don't get involved in energy sapping wrestling matches with Floyd.

Fight on the outside, keep moving to keep Floyd off balance, in posistion to counter Floyds jab and keeping away from the straight right to make Floyd overstrecth with this punch.

Fight the first two minutes at a slow pace let Floyd come to him and the last minute, high pressure and try and back Floyd up.

Look for the uppercut when Floyd is hurt, he will try to hold up, so step back stay way and catch him with the uppercut on the way in.

[Dave Rado]

Does he apply constant pressure like with Berto. Or does he pick his spots to be aggressive, on the ropes. What punch does Ortiz have in his arsenal that may cause Mayweather problems? If you had to give a percentage what would be Ortiz chance to win?

What he has to do in order to win is put poison in Floyd's drink.

[D4thincarnation]

Ortiz should not jab, it will be up against Floyd's jab and will get countered or blocked, the right hook counter from the southpaw stance is the punch he needs.

And when Floyd drops that left throw the overhand right.

His footwork is key never let Floyd get set, but this is a high energy tactic so Ortiz will have to be in top condition.