Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather's Return Rekindles Years-Long Firefight

[Rapid Counter]

Its a super fight because it will generate over a million buys.. Pac and Floyd fights are now events.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it but then that basically means that pac vs Clottey was a superfight right? Because (I believe ) it sold over a million ppv right? That's not my idea of a superfight. Pac vs Marquez 3 years ago and I would be inclined to call it a superfight. Not now, not at the age of 38 and not at 144.

[hitking]

Mayweather's layoff doesn't at all enhanceto the quality of his match-up with Ortiz. Mayweather's layoff was Mayweather's choosing. He wasn't injured. And he's pulled the "retirement" card once before. If he wanted to fight, he could have fought. Please stop using the 16 month layoff to overhype what is a decent, but far from earth moving match-up.

[hitking]

Its a super fight because it will generate over a million buys.. Pac and Floyd fights are now events.

People's "definition" of what is or isn't a superfight varies. Personally, when I say superfight, I'm talking about two P4P elites fighting each other. Pacquaio-Marquez, superfight. Pacquaio-Cotto, superfight. Mayweather-Mosley, superfight. Mayweather-Marquez, superfight. Donaire-Montiel, superfight. Martinez-Williams II, superfight, Mayweather-Ortiz, no. Pacquaio-Mosley, no. Pacquaio-Margarito, no way. Pacquaio-Clottey, WTF?

[PacTard]

Victor Ortiz is riding high right now. Floyd is coming back after a 16 month layoff. Put them two ingredients together and you have a recipe that works.

In your opinion. How is this "the sport of boxing"? It's a ridiculous conclusion to draw, seeing as though you likely aren't spending a lot of time in both the Phillipines and Mexico where the two fighters in one of the fights are from.

Any way you want to spin it; Mayweather and Pacquiao are the same draw. When you get within a certain realm of PPV buys, it becomes impossible to distinguish how many of those buys will be attributed to the opponent. 1.5 vs 1.3 is inconsequential without being able to differentiate the viewing audience.

[GRUSTLER]

In your opinion. How is this "the sport of boxing"? It's a ridiculous conclusion to draw, seeing as though you likely aren't spending a lot of time in both the Phillipines and Mexico where the two fighters in one of the fights are from.

Any way you want to spin it; Mayweather and Pacquiao are the same draw. When you get within a certain realm of PPV buys, it becomes impossible to distinguish how many of those buys will be attributed to the opponent. 1.5 vs 1.3 is inconsequential without being able to differentiate the viewing audience.

Do you want to bet that Floyd/Ortiz does more than Pac/JMM? I will take all of your points.

[Rapid Counter]

If you check any credible P4P list, JMM is probably in the top 5. On the other hand, Ortiz was KO'd by a Maidana who just went life-n-death with a completely washed up Erik Morales andfought to a draw with Peterson. I don't see anything bold about fighting a guy that struggles against that level of competition when IMO Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter in the world. Pacquaio-Marquez III is historically meaningful, Mayweather-Ortiz is historically irrelevant, unless Ortiz pulls the upset.

Since that loss against Maidana in which Ortiz was not KO'd but instead quit he has been in winning ways and has won a title. Not only did he win against Berto but he dominated. I judge fighters on a fight by fight basis. You put Maidana down for under performing against Morales but one poor performance doesn't make you a bad fighter. Just because 2 fighters are on the p4p list doesn't automatically make for a good fight. Marquez still operates 2 divisions below Pacquiao. Maybe you would like to see b hop vs Klitchkos? They are both p4p after all

[PacTard]

Do you want to bet that Floyd/Ortiz does more than Pac/JMM? I will take all of your points.

And this will prove what? Again, read what I just wrote. I really don't care who draws what. I want to see the best two fighters in the world punch each other in the face. It does not matter to me what they draw, as I don't see any of that money. People on this site get entirely too caught up in which fighter makes more, or which fighter is more popular.

That's just a fanboy attitude.

[hitking]

Since that loss against Maidana in which Ortiz was not KO'd but instead quit he has been in winning ways and has won a title. Not only did he win against Berto but he dominated. I judge fighters on a fight by fight basis. You put Maidana down for under performing against Morales but one poor performance doesn't make you a bad fighter. Just because 2 fighters are on the p4p list doesn't automatically make for a good fight. Marquez still operates 2 divisions below Pacquiao. Maybe you would like to see b hop vs Klitchkos? They are both p4p after all

I think there's a little differnce between a welterweight fighting a light weight and a 250 lber fighting a light heavyweight. And as I've stated in defense of Mayweather's fight with JMM, boxing history is littered with great lightweights moving up and beating great welterweights. It was nothing wrong with Money fighting JMM and there's nothing wrong with Pac fighting him.

BTW, since losing to Maidana, Ortiz fought to a daw with Peterson and that trinket he won for beating Berto is as meaningful as used toilet tissue. Floyd Mayweather won the lineal welterweight title when he beat Baldomir and in my mind will remain the true welterweight champion until he loses a welterweight fight, leaves the division, or sincerely retires.

[Rapid Counter]

I think there's a little differnce between a welterweight fighting a light weight and a 250 lber fighting a light heavyweight. And as I've stated in defense of Mayweather's fight with JMM, boxing history is littered with great lightweights moving up and beating great welterweights. It was nothing wrong with Money fighting JMM and there's nothing wrong with Pac fighting him.

BTW, since losing to Maidana, Ortiz fought to a daw with Peterson and that trinket he won for beating Berto is as meaningful as used toilet tissue. Floyd Mayweather won the lineal welterweight title when he beat Baldomir and in my mind will remain the true welterweight champion until he loses a welterweight fight, leaves the division, or sincerely retires.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree bro.

[Tjrjr]

LOL this writer truly is a *****:

He said Pac fought Cotto and margs after they'd been destroyed but technically those two guys had won their previous outings before facing Pac.

Meanwhile he praises Floyd for fighting Ortiz even tho Ortiz has already been outboxed by lamont peterson and beaten down and made to quit by Maidana, how can he not see his logic is flawed?

Cotto - a win against Jennings??? who didn't even deserve a VACANT title shot (and btw lost by TKO in his last outing against Kell Brook... - that's a QUALITY WIN if i ever saw one!! And a lackluster fight against Clottey that he could have easily lost if Clottey didn't stop fight at the end.

And then we have Margarito who you Dumbass*******s still refer to as a threat! he was coming off of a fight against Roberto Garcia! Really?!?!? Roberto Garcia?!?!?!!? please tell me how that fight meant anything to the sport of boxing??? and based on that performance... he was considered the BEST OPPONENT FOR PAC!! enough with this ****... without the plaster, Margarito is nothing more than a punching bag! he's a statue, with ZERO movement and ZERO defense. take away his power (which was the only thing he had) and you get the result that happened....