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  • hitking
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    #121
    Originally posted by jayhova29
    i agree, unfortunately for the opponent he's fighting and at the weight he's fighting him at, i don't think we will see that in november.
    I don't think the weight is nearly as big an issue as some are making it out to be. IMO, JMM made a mistake against Mayweather in trying to bulk up. He needs to enter the ring weighing what he would in a normal lightweight fight. I think the only thing that keeps this from being a competitive fight is JMM being able to handle Pac's power as a welterweight. I personally feel Pac is hitting harder than he did in the previous two fights. If JMM can deal with the power, it will be another great fight.

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    • jayhova29
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      #122
      Originally posted by hitking
      I don't think the weight is nearly as big an issue as some are making it out to be. IMO, JMM made a mistake against Mayweather in trying to bulk up. He needs to enter the ring weighing what he would in a normal lightweight fight. I think the only thing that keeps this from being a competitive fight is JMM being able to handle Pac's power as a welterweight. I personally feel Pac is hitting harder than he did in the previous two fights. If JMM can deal with the power, it will be another great fight.
      If he can deal with his power, he dealt with floyds pretty well, with the exception of being knocked down in the 3rd, but what if Manny throws the same hook that mayweather dropped him with. honestly i personally feel this is a mismatch and a half, even if he fought at 140lbs it would be a mismatch, Pacquiaos better now than he was then, and Marquez is slower now than he was then. Ill honestly be surprised if the fight goes the distance. Had Marquez of stayed at ww or around the same weight he fought floyd, i would give him a chance. But his last 3 fights were at 140 and considering the way he looked against mayweather at that weight, i dont see him doing as well as he did in the 1st 2 fights.

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      • hitking
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        #123
        Originally posted by jayhova29
        If he can deal with his power, he dealt with floyds pretty well, with the exception of being knocked down in the 3rd, but what if Manny throws the same hook that mayweather dropped him with. honestly i personally feel this is a mismatch and a half, even if he fought at 140lbs it would be a mismatch, Pacquiaos better now than he was then, and Marquez is slower now than he was then. Ill honestly be surprised if the fight goes the distance. Had Marquez of stayed at ww or around the same weight he fought floyd, i would give him a chance. But his last 3 fights were at 140 and considering the way he looked against mayweather at that weight, i dont see him doing as well as he did in the 1st 2 fights.
        I don't think JMM has slipped much. Outside of being dropped by Katsidis, JMM has been dominant in his lightweight title defenses. I think its an interesting fight. JMM will be fine. We'll know very early what's gonna happen. Because even though JMM is a great counterpuncher, he's not all that hard to find, so he'll be hit early. If he can take it, he'll be able to land his countering combos all night. If he can't, he'll probably be blown out inside three.

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        • SlimTim
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          #124
          Wow Fitz, you know nothing about boxing. You really think Floyd beats Manny??? Hahaha even if Floyd tries to stink it out he wouldn't be able to deal with Manny's speed and power and he would definitely get stopped. Floyd may have a very slight edge in recent competition but Manny's been more active and at least he's been an underdog in the last five years. Also his competition at featherweight and junior lightweight ****s on Floyd's at those weights. Let's not forget that Manny fought Oscar after Floyd ducked him in the rematch because he was barely able to squeak out a split decision in the first fight. Floyd also deserves no credit for beating Mosley because he was 39 and out of the ring for nearly 2 years by the time they fought and Ortiz has already been exposed by both a crude brawler and a defensive boxer so he gets no credit for taking this fight. If he had stepped up to middleweight and fought Sergio Martinez then I would give him credit but Floyd doesn't take any risks when he fights so he'll never fight as an underdog. That's also why he won't fight Pac

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          • raiden10
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            #125
            Originally posted by WALDO.
            That's how he normally approaches southpaws, I don't see why he would change his approach, I see nothing in Pacquiao's arsenal that would make Floyd do that. Floyd has always been more comfortable being the aggressor against southpaws, he operates better that way.

            To say "That would lead to his downfall" is more like overrating Pacquiao
            Then he still needs 2 more tune up fight for pacquiao.. And uncle roger knows this!

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #126
              Originally posted by STRUGG
              duran......hagler.........ali............and SRR.............would be ashamed to be in the same company as floyd.................
              Originally posted by MELLY-MEL...
              i agree with you.
              Ray thinks that Mayweather is a great fighter, and did not know who would win between the two of them if they fought, except he did say that he would back himself in a real tough pickem, or words to that effect.

              I feel ashamed for Moore/Duran when clowns mention Pacquiao in that light.

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              • raiden10
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                #127
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Manny Pacquiao has yet to break the Floyd Mayweather Jr/Oscar De La Hoya PPV record. Every opponent that they shared, Floyd outsold him. Manny is definitely more likeable in the public eye but PPV numbers, Floyd can out do Pac at anytime.
                What youve said is true! Floyd is An american who can speak english fluently than pacquiao. So mayweather can sell more fights by talking **** all over the net. His a good sales man compare to pacquiao! his arrogant personality routing everybody to see him lost the fight! pacquiao is boring outside the ring but very exciting inside the ring that makes him sell good PPV. But for a foreign fighter he is not bad at all for making a good PPV# and the distance with their PPV is marginal not quite big of a difference.

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                • LeadUppercut
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by PacTard
                  Ugh. I hate getting involved in this circle-jerk logic. So let me get this straight:

                  Mayweathers win over Mosely was legitimate because Mosely was coming off an impressive victory over Margarito (Nevermind Shane's 18 month lay-off).

                  Now, as you just stated; "without the plaster, Margarito is nothing more than a punching bag."

                  So how then is that an impressive victory for Mosely, and thus how did that make Mosely a game opponent for Floyd?

                  Mosely was the exact same opponent for Floyd as he was for Manny. Either Margarito is a legit opponent and both Mosely and Pacquiao's victories over him are legitimate, or Margarito was merely a "punching bag" in which NEITHER Floyd nor Pac's wins should be considered a legitimate victory over a "live" opponent in Mosely.

                  Logic dictates that you can't have it both ways, bud!
                  Bull****, what rubbish.....

                  When Mosley fought Mayweather.....
                  * Shane was coming off a win
                  * Shane was ranked the #1 welter
                  * Manny had just ducked Mosley TWICE

                  When Mosley fought Pacquiao.....
                  * Shane was coming off a loss, and a draw against a C-class fighter
                  * Even Berto was ranked higher than Shane
                  * EVERYBODY was saying that Mosley was old, shot, and could no longer pull the trigger

                  How can you even compare those two situations ?

                  Pacland

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                  • wengz2002
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                    #129
                    Pac Murdered Cotto/Clottey/Margarito in succession!

                    I pick any of these 3 guys to woop Ortiz Ass Any day!



                    Can Mayweather outdo Pac against Cotto/Clottey/Margarito???
                    We know these 3 guys experience the real beating at the hands of Manny. So we can say that they are more damage goods....
                    But Can Mayweather beat them like the way Pacquiao did??? Ans: NO!

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                    • wengz2002
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                      #130
                      Cotto/Cottey/Margarito will beat Ortiz any day!!!

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