If Ortiz can be out boxed by Lamont Peterson

[Battle*Hardened]

He was dominating Peterson, and looked like he was going to get the KO, then all of a sudden he started fighting off the back foot and prancing around the rest of the fight. Like he thought he had it in the bag.

I think it's all in his demeanor and that has seemingly changed.

[DanielTurcotte3]

You gauge that on one fight at ww?
Mayweather is going to make Ortiz look like a amateur.
Ortiz and Berto were just landing bombs, with absolutely no regard for any solid defense. He's up against the best defensive fighter in this era.

It's a walk in the park for Mayweather.

Thats what I mean when I say that this could look like Gatti, May will see that Ortiz has no defense and cant get away from his combos and hopefully he bombards him with an offensive fight from Mays perspective....I wanna see Mayweather outclass and make a statment in this fight.............

[Gutz]

Maidana, and Peterson >>>>> Berto...

[Pullcounter]

If ortiz's opponent doesn't brawl with Ortiz, then Ortiz doesn't get the opportunities to land big punches

[JDezi4]

He fought Peterson as if he had Oscar De La Hoya's boxing skill. HE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT. He tried to box Peterson from the outside, and that resulted in him getting outboxed.

I guess he realized that in the Peterson fight, and changed his style. Now he's an inside fighter... Basically a brawler. And Floyd never fought a brawler with that kind of power. I'm gonna completely ignore the whole "southpaw" thing, becuz that won't really matter. But everything else will...

[IronDanHamza]

People seem to believe Ortiz has changed his style since Peterson.

I don't believe that.

The reason he was more aggressive against Berto is because Berto isn't a counter puncher and wasn't punishing his mistakes like Peterson was.

Mayweather isn't going to allow Ortiz to fight like he did against Berto without getting punished.

I garantee Ortiz will back up at times Vs. Mayweather when his plan A doesn't work.

[JDezi4]

People seem to believe Ortiz has changed his style since Peterson.

I don't believe that.

The reason he was more aggressive against Berto is because Berto isn't a counter puncher and wasn't punishing his mistakes like Peterson was.

Mayweather isn't going to allow Ortiz to fight like he did against Berto without getting punished.

I garantee Ortiz will back up at times Vs. Mayweather when his plan A doesn't work.

When Ortiz fought on the inside against Peterson, he knocked Peterson down twice and basically dominated him.

Peterson's reaction to that was to hold on the inside, and Ortiz (possibly becuz he was weight drained) didn't have an answer to that.

And for whatever reason (corner apparently told him to, possibly to avoid being clinched) he started trying to box on the outside, which is when Peterson started counter him.

He continued that all the way until round 10, where he realized he needed to stay on the inside, and all through that round he beat Peterson around the ring.

Peterson didn't do anything on the inside except get beat up and clinch. The only time he countered was on the outside over Ortiz's pathetic jab and lunging straight left. U see that with Berto in round 6, Ortiz can't get on the inside, so he's getting beat to the punch everytime then eventually knocked down (Which Floyd does not have the power to do, Ortiz would probably give him even less respect and bulldog his way to the inside where he will dominate Floyd no doubt).

If u can't see any stylistic change between Ortiz/Peterson and Ortiz/Berto than it seems u simply lack that ability.

[IronDanHamza]

When Ortiz fought on the inside against Peterson, he knocked Peterson down twice and basically dominated him.

Peterson's reaction to that was to hold on the inside, and Ortiz (possibly becuz he was weight drained) didn't have an answer to that.

And for whatever reason (corner apparently told him to, possibly to avoid being clinched) he started trying to box on the outside, which is when Peterson started counter him.

He continued that all the way until round 10, where he realized he needed to stay on the inside, and all through that round he beat Peterson around the ring.

Peterson didn't do anything on the inside except get beat up and clinch. The only time he countered was on the outside over Ortiz's pathetic jab and lunging straight left. U see that with Berto in round 6, Ortiz can't get on the inside, so he's getting beat to the punch everytime then eventually knocked down (Which Floyd does not have the power to do, Ortiz would probably give him even less respect and bulldog his way to the inside where he will dominate Floyd no doubt).

If u can't see any stylistic change between Ortiz/Peterson and Ortiz/Berto than it seems u simply lack that ability.

Peterson wouldn't let him on the inside, that's the difference. Berto doesn't have that ability.Ortiz isn't that good on the inside anyway.

I believe he started to box with Peterson because Peterson wasn't allowing him to fight his fight.

If Ortiz lunges in and trys to bumrush his way to Floyd he is going to get countered to death. And Ortiz will not dominate Mayweather on the inside.

Explain to me his stylistic change? I can't see it.

Like I said, if Berto had the ability to counter like Peterson does he would have also given Ortiz a few problems.

The fact Berto is remarkabely easy to hit makes it seem like something that isn't.

We will see in September.

[gauze]

i've noticed in a lot lamont peterson's fights that his opponents are totally erect for a good portion of the bout. if ortiz took care of that unibrow and gave peterson a boner instead of vice versa, i doubt floyd would be done playing hungry hungry hippos. god damn, i love the sweet science.

[gauze]

has anyone else noticed the erect penis inside of boxing trunks during the peterson bouts? if anthony had that effect i think he would have stopped rios