Antonio Margarito vs. Victor Ortiz - Who wins?

[Phenom]

Ortiz stops his overrated ass with or with out loaded gloves. MArg never even had half the talents of Ortiz

[Khalid X]

Doesn't matter if he's shot or not, he was never that good to begin with. Take away Cotto, who has Margs beaten?

Cintron, Clottey, Martinez, Lewis, Lujan.

Also he had a razor close loss to PWilliams.

His only bad fights were blowout losses to Manny and Shane but even that isn't too bad. Is Tony an ATG/HOF fighter....far from it, but to say he isn't good is just hating.

[DonairesRevenge]

but his power is gone!

Margarito never had this great power you speak off. Show me fights where he's ever been knocking people spark out.

He is a volume puncher who beats you down, not some KO artist.

[elgu]

Who has Margarito stopped, no... who has Margarito even SCRATCHED after losing his plaster wraps.

Hilarious thread!

Margarito with his plaster destroys Ortiz, and Manny.

Margarito without his plaster gets destroyed by just about anyone with power.

you sir have made a fool of yourself several times in this thread and your replies just get worse and more generic

[Chopper417]

never said he didn't have power.

Please re-read my thread as I stated that Mosley is the hardest hitting WW since Trinidad and Ortiz doesn't have that type of power.

Again, Ortiz power is not on the level of Mosley and Trinidad.

Fair enough, I can agree with that.

[TheTruth!]

He dropped Garcia in the first round....lol and it was also his first fight back from a 2 year lay off.

Look, Marg has never had 1 punch KO power but he can hit, anyone who thinks that wraps will instantly give you mike tyson type power doesn't know anything about boxing.

Illegal wraps are about causing damage, not necessarily giving instant power. I'm not going to get into the wraps thing because it's been done to death but you are completely ignoring the fact he DID HURT MANNY TO THE BODY IN THE 6TH ROUND.

So did he have wraps then as well? Sparring partners talked about his power, do you think he was wearing illegal wraps against sparring partners? What would be the advatage of trying to hurt guys YOU ARE PAYING TO MAKE YOU BETTER? lol.....

Look man you aren't talking to one of these ****** little kids, make your point but don't come at me with this BS.

If you think he's feather fisted, try watching him hit the bag or mitts live and see and hear what it sounds like. Marg is strong....

Without his wraps, he can't beat anyone elite. Ortiz would not have a problem with his power. Manny is weak at the body so I wouldn't use it to back up your argument.

[Chopper417]

Cintron, Clottey, Martinez, Lewis, Lujan.

Also he had a razor close loss to PWilliams.

His only bad fights were blowout losses to Manny and Shane but even that isn't too bad. Is Tony an ATG/HOF fighter....far from it, but to say he isn't good is just hating.

Agreed, I should have said not elite. He's a very good fighter, nowhere near elite.

[The Big Dunn]

Cintron, Clottey, Martinez, Lewis, Lujan.

Also he had a razor close loss to PWilliams.

His only bad fights were blowout losses to Manny and Shane but even that isn't too bad. Is Tony an ATG/HOF fighter....far from it, but to say he isn't good is just hating.

What about losing to Daniel Santos?

[Clint650]

That's what I don't get. Margarito does everything better than Maidana, is about 15lbs bigger and has a solid chin, whereas Maidana doesn't.

Only a Mayweather fan, Cotto nuthugger or someone who just hates Margarito would say otherwise.

with Ortiz the Maidana fight is clearly in the past. Maidana would have nothing to do with him @ 147, and he himself admitted that the move up would'nt favor him. i would pick both Berto and Ortiz to end Margo Mosley style. Margo has a chin, and thats about it.

[tomhawq]

if the face of boxing today, pacquiao, can't stop marg, who is ortiz?

the margarito who fought pac eats bombs for dinner. and he never sleeps.

if you can imagine ortiz launching more bombs than pac on margs head and body, then ortiz wins. but then you have to have your head examined.