Comments Thread For: Roach: No Robbery, Pacquiao Beat Marquez Twice

[JoeDaWg]

What else would he say? If he felt that for real it wouldn't be a third fight!

I think they're getting tired of all his yapping.

Two great fights, two wrong decisions. First fight 115-110 Marquez, Manny won the first(10-6),and the second. Please elaborate on which other rounds he won and why. Second fight was easy to score 115-112 Juan, reminded me of first morales fight when everyone had the same score, except arums judges. Now its not Chris Byrd/Fres Oquendo or Oneil Bell/Dale Brown type robbery but nonetheless Marquez has every right to claim bull**** and everyone including Freddie knows it.

Dude go back and rescore those two fights. Ur score cards are ****ed up. It was much much close then ur trying to portray.

[flint]

i thought pac won a close decision in the first fight and i thought marquez won the second fight.

[LeadUppercut]

the 2nd fight should have gone to jmm. even donaire thought pac lost that fight.

Pretty sure that Dionesia and Jinkee had Marquez ahead in that fight as well.

[LeadUppercut]

not really ... it just judges how a prime WW Pacquiao can beat an over the hill bloated up Lightweight Marquez,

JMM is my favorite current boxer and I fully expect him to get stopped

I think I agree, Pacquiao is an over-rated hype-job, and his fans are the worst sporting fans on the planet for accepting his rubbish.

[apunchnotseen]

Dude go back and rescore those two fights. Ur score cards are ****ed up. It was much much close then ur trying to portray.[/QUOTE]

Dude I was at the 2nd fight, and have watched both fights too many times to count. Also had the privilege to go to Erik1+3, and the hatton destruction. My point is I'm a pacaholic and he lost both these fights. Just someone please give me a scorecard from the first fight with a round other than one or two that went to pac. Juan is the only fighter I know who has went down three times in the first only to come back and win, draw and sort of lose the same fight.

[LeadUppercut]

Pac clearly won both fights and only a blind fool would think otherwise

Hmmm, just a sec, let me check with my good buddies Bernstein and Sugar....

.... ummm nope sorry, according to them, Marquez won both fights ^^

Are they blind fools ?

[LeadUppercut]

Say what? U do know how to score fights right? Knock downs count for a reason. A knock down can completely turn a fight around. When u give up multiple knock downs u dig yourself a hole that's not easily dug out of. Jmm has one guy to blame for the out come of those fights. If he would have stayed on his feet he would have won. That's boxing

Stop being so fkn ridiculous.

A knockdown counts FOR ONE POINT only, and NOTHING MORE !!

Thats like people trying to give a fighter credit for landing the harder punches.

Or for being the " aggressor ".

How could boxing get so pussified ?

If your aggression is effective, then it will show on the cards, or you will get your face marked up..... and if you really did "land the harder punches", then you will get your opponent out of there, or be able to take advantage later in the fight, he might just be tougher than you, and that might just be part of his gameplan.

That fight was about even just after the half-way point.

[Kobayashi]

Indeed, Pac beat Marquez twice.

The first fight wasn`t a draw, juge Burt Clement scored 10-7 instead of 10-6 for Pac. He forgot one knockdown. Even without that knockdown, Pac won clearly. He won sevreral rounds at the end of the fight and broke Marquez`s mouth.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

All of these are not judges they're sports writers and commentators, judges and legions think Pacquiao deserves the win...third fight will prove that and the Pacman will shut all your mouth believe me, that's why he agreed for 3rd fight, cause he's a warrior.

LMAO!

knee grow please. Third fight won't mean **** because it's three years later and at a weight Roach/Pac know Marquez can't compete at.

And if Pac was such a warrior, he would have fought Marquez after their rematch to prove who was better and not wait nearly another 4 years for the guy to get older and slow down. he would have fought Mosley after he pummeled Margarito, instead of hiding from him. Even Roach said that at that time "HE WAS TOO GOOD", even as he was nearing the end of his career. A loss and a draw later, yeah, they'll fight him. Warrior my ass.
It also didn't help that Roach said that Mosley is done and couldn't pull the trigger anymore.


Pac will never fight anyone at the top of their game, and under a level playing field.

HE ALWAYS HAS TO MULTIPLE ADVANTAGES.

P4P #1, YEAH F**KEN RIGHT, KIDS!

[bojangles1987]

LMAO!

knee grow please. Third fight won't mean **** because it's three years later and at a weight Roach/Pac know Marquez can't compete at.

And if Pac was such a warrior, he would have fought Marquez after their rematch to prove who was better and not wait nearly another 4 years for the guy to get older and slow down. he would have fought Mosley after he pummeled Margarito, instead of hiding from him. Even Roach said that at that time "HE WAS TOO GOOD", even as he was nearing the end of his career. A loss and a draw later, yeah, they'll fight him. Warrior my ass.
It also didn't help that Roach said that Mosley is done and couldn't pull the trigger anymore.


Pac will never fight anyone at the top of their game, and under a level playing field.

HE ALWAYS HAS TO MULTIPLE ADVANTAGES.

P4P #1, YEAH F**KEN RIGHT, KIDS!

Lol at the bold. Pacquiao wanted an immediate rematch after the first fight, but Marquez outpriced himself. Morales took that chance and ran with it.