Who amongst these fighters ranks highest in the ATG list?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #81
    of course manny wins............*******s hav ealts on top of alts notice the votes arnt made public

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    • New England
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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Your statment is based off absolutely nothing.

      Well done.


      lol i was going to say...


      for a resume so easy to break down you'd think you'd actually do some breaking.

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      • Kagami Taiga
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        #83
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        You know if anyone was to do a bit of research on Pernels opponents they could have a field day. How many were coming off loses or shop worn, or werent even any good in the first place? How many did he cherry pick? If anybody could be bothered to check it, it wouldnt be hard believe me. With Pac, people do bother to look for any possible excuse, and if there isnt one they will trying selling you one like the cowsboy salesmen they are.
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        • Manny#1ATG
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          #84
          Originally posted by LarryX2011
          of course manny wins............*******s hav ealts on top of alts notice the votes arnt made public
          you *****s is all idiots...everybody know best boxers of last 20 years go like this:

          1) Manny Pacquiao
          2) Miguel Cotto
          3) Antonio Margarito
          4) Shane Mosley
          5) Joshua Clottey
          6) Oscar De La Hoya
          7) Ricky Hatton
          8) Coward Chikin Fraud Gayweather
          9) Juan Manuel Marquez
          10) David Diaz

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          • LeG00N
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            #85
            Originally posted by Manny#1ATG
            you *****s is all idiots...everybody know best boxers of last 20 years go like this:

            1) Manny Pacquiao
            2) Miguel Cotto
            3) Antonio Margarito
            4) Shane Mosley
            5) Joshua Clottey
            6) Oscar De La Hoya
            7) Ricky Hatton
            8) Coward Chikin Fraud Gayweather
            9) Juan Manuel Marquez
            10) David Diaz
            are you a troll? I've also noticed those are all opponents Manny "beat" ...


            David Diaz is above Lennox Lewis? Joshua Clottey is above Roy Jones?


            no sweet pea? no chavez? even if hes best fights were behind him...

            no tito? no Morales or Barrera?

            Margarito above ODLH?


            I think I just got trolled...

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              #86
              Originally posted by Manny#1ATG
              you *****s is all idiots...everybody know best boxers of last 20 years go like this:

              1) Manny Pacquiao
              2) Miguel Cotto
              3) Antonio Margarito
              4) Shane Mosley
              5) Joshua Clottey
              6) Oscar De La Hoya
              7) Ricky Hatton
              8) Coward Chikin Fraud Gayweather
              9) Juan Manuel Marquez
              10) David Diaz


              LOL i just noticed you're a troll I wasn't sure before ...

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              • hugh grant
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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Because;

                Whitaker is argubaly a Top 5 LW, which is argubally the deepest division in the history of the sport.

                Whitaker has a win over Nelson which is as good as any win Pac has expect Barrera.

                Whitaker should have a win over Chavez which is better than any win Pac has.

                Along with 8 defences at LW. 8 Defences at WW. And titles at 140 and 154.

                I also feel he beat a prime De La Hoya but that's argubale.

                Along with almost 10 other wins against Top ranked oppoents on top of that.

                But, this has already been stressed numerous times and you have dismissed it so naturally you will dismiss this also.
                I asked for a quintisiential performance that people will remember Pernel for and you gave me a performance against a 130lb azumah who went life and death with jim mcdonell a brit dude. A draw with a ageing 100 fight Chavez and also a draw with a prime DLH. And you are trying to say his resume is comparable to Pac? Im assuming as you mentioned the names Chavez, Nelson and DLH, that these are Pernels most outstanding achievements and performances?

                And you also gave a mention to Witaker defending his title 8 times. Wow, im sure Pac could have defended his 140 title until he was in his zimmer frame but people keep asking him to step up to face Sergio Martinez and FLoyd. He actually chooses to stay in the 147 dvision so people at least wont say hes avoiding Floyd. Also doesnt Pernel ever stop opponents, i noticed lots of his fights went 12 rounds against names that dont slip off the tongue and not that well known. Couldnt he stop Azumah Nelson or Chavez, like Pac did to a Morales. That is better than anything Witaker will be known for, stopping Morales.

                Originally posted by New England
                lol i was going to say...


                for a resume so easy to break down you'd think you'd actually do some breaking.
                It was quite easy to get started actually. But i dont want to get malicious and spiteful like the people are towards Pac you see camped on this thread and others. The ones with agendas.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 06-01-2011, 04:12 AM.

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #88
                  The fact that people think Pac is greater than Whitaker shows you all need to know about the Boxing IQs of posters on this site.

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                  • puga
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    The fact that people think Pac is greater than Whitaker shows you all need to know about the Boxing IQs of posters on this site.
                    bert "****ing " sugar >>>>>>>>>>>anybody on these boards...

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                    • studentofthegam
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Why do people keep trying to keep pernell witaker in the spotlight when historians are trying to forget him. You cant force him on people.
                      Its too obvious. Pernell fought the old greats and up and coming greats. His supreme skills, disputed losses and fighting in between two of the most popular eras for WW's seals the deal. Bhop is second and that should be undeniable too. 46 yr old champion? Wont be broken for some time. Gotta go with Floyd at three then Pac.

                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Oh i see, but lower expectations of Sweet pea. I often hear people say Pac is the best. But Sweet pea is one of the best ie top 15 but not most peoples THE best.
                      Its because its right now. When Pernell was fighting you heard people say he was the best too because he's fresh.

                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Just curious as to know really. You can tell who are floyd and Pac haters when you get anwers like, Floyd beat hatton first.
                      Answer me this. The first man to beat Floyd is going to get way more props than the second guy right? Thats an obvious yes so who's really getting caught up in hero worship?

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