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Originally posted by right hand jab View Postyour bias is blinding your grasp upon a logical thought process, it's already been proven that JMM can't fight effectively at 147. Why not go half way and fight at 141?...This is just yet another example of Pacquiao seeking an advantage, by handcuffing an opponent to a weight stipulation that doesn't suit them!Last edited by kidrak; 05-26-2011, 02:01 AM.
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Originally posted by tlarry View PostI've been saying that all along about Martinez trying to see just how ****** Pacquiao & Co. are by baiting them up to take on a much larger Martinez. Ray Leonard off how many years of retirement stepped in the ting with a much larger, stronger Hagler, to outsmart the marvelous one? Then Leonard even went larger and destroyed Donny LaLonde. Tommy Hearns went up how many classes to win how many titles. Pacquiao has already come up several weight classes to where he is today. Let's have Martinez show his Mexican balls, and go fight Hopkins at 46 years old. He's younger, more in his prime than Hopkins... or is he???? He lacks courage to pull that one off like Leonard and Hearns did. He doesn't have the nerve that Duran had, or Julio Cesar Chavez had. So grow a pair Martinez. Quit calling out guys you'll outweigh come fight night by 25-30lbs. Hell even Dela Hoya and Mosley went up to fight great Champions, in their prime, win, lose, or draw much larger than them in Winky Wright, Vernon Forrest, and Bernard Hopkins. That's more than I can say for Martinez. Somebody PLEASE ask Martinez that question; why he won't call out Hopkins!!!
manny's been rehydrating to the same size of all his opponents before facing dlh, he even weighed more on fight night than dlh. catchweight cotto, rusty margs, and shot mosley, are those greater fighters? only legit one was hatton. martinez is from argentina not mexico btw. he is trying to face the former jmw wbc beltholder (manny pacquiao) who he himself(martinez) had held the same belt before vacating it. how is that unjust? both meet within the JMW limit..so outweighing him on fight night is what scares people huh? even though manny himself says he likes fighting fighters "beeger than me"..all his diehard fans say he whooped a bigger margs and clottey, that's why he is so great! keep hating on martinez for trying to achieve p4p supremacy, ****in idiots....
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Originally posted by right hand jab View PostYour still making excuses for your idol, Martinez can't make 150 and you know it!
Yet more attempts to win by any means unnecessary, 150?...LOL!
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Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
manny's been rehydrating to the same size of all his opponents before facing dlh, he even weighed more on fight night than dlh. catchweight cotto, rusty margs, and shot mosley, are those greater fighters? only legit one was hatton. martinez is from argentina not mexico btw. he is trying to face the former jmw wbc beltholder (manny pacquiao) who he himself(martinez) had held the same belt before vacating it. how is that unjust? both meet within the JMW limit..so outweighing him on fight night is what scares people huh? even though manny himself says he likes fighting fighters "beeger than me"..all his diehard fans say he whooped a bigger margs and clottey, that's why he is so great! keep hating on martinez for trying to achieve p4p supremacy, ****in idiots....
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I like to see this fight, Manny vs Martinez. However, Manny is the alpha male and the money draw for this fight. So if Martinez want to fight Manny, then do what JMM and Mosley did. Sign up with TR and follow the anticipated required catchweight (144-150???). Martinez more likely will rehydrate to 165-170 anyway at fight night and it's a win win situation for Martinez win or lose. Martinez needs to sweeten his offer to challenge Manny otherwise he's barking at the wrong tree. Boxing after all is still a business and Manny vs JMM is a sure money draw than Manny vs Martinez.
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Originally posted by rey guey View Postso Manny can force Marquez to go up TWO weight classes and he isn't being a bully?
the only reason Martinez is calling Manny out is because Pacquiao moved up into the Junior Middleweight world and won a title, Sergio's WBC title. he has every right to do so.
Pacquiao has been fighting garbage, sorry pac fans but that's a fact.
everybody knew Mosley was shot, what you didn't see him against Mayweather or Mora?
Margarito looked horrible once his cheating was exposed and Pac had to fight him at a catch weight for a title. what that's not stacking the deck a little?
Clottey was totally fixed
Cotto hasn't been the same since Cheato wrecked his career with the loaded gloves.
Hatton was Mayweather's leftovers and just about near the end.
De la Hoya was finished and cashing out. weight drained and over the hill.
David Daiz was just to win a paper title at 135.
Pacquiao hasn't had an good fight since 2008. what Pacquiao did to Morales, Barrera and Marquez was HOF stuff, but since then it's just been a cash grab. So what is Martinez pointed out the truth. not like Arum will ever let any of his fighters near Martinez anyways
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although jmm is a lightweight but he can make the 144 catchweight limit easily, in fact he weighed 145 lbs on fight night againts katsidis for the lightweight belt. hes a welter fighting for a lightweight title. pac weighs around 146-148 on fight night. so theres no so much issues on weights on pac/jmm bout.
againts martinez pac cant even make weight close to 150 on scale and in fight night if it happens on 154. pac will weigh 148 maximum inside the ring while martinez will weigh 165-168. thats the reason/difference why pac/jmm is more realistic than pac/martinez.
finally, pac never called out jmm for a third fight coz he doesnt need him. jmm asked for this one, unlike martinez who imo use pac, who is a 2 division lower from his weight class, to attract some kind of attention from media and boxing fans
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This article is pure garbage.
Is Boxingscene turn into boxing news 24 or ESB? I hope not.Last edited by Rapid Counter; 05-26-2011, 02:58 AM.
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