Dana White: UFC Is Now Bigger Than Boxing & WWE Combined

[Dorian]

Same goes for EVERY.SINGLE.OTHER.COUNTRY on earth other than U.S.

Boxing dominates and destroys UFC in the rest of the world

They sell out arenas in Australia, Germany and England like it's the united states. They have plans on going to Japan and China right away and everywhere else in Europe, remember the UFC only got big around 2005-2006 unlike Boxing that's been around since my great grandpa was born. Give them time..

[NSX-R]

If you think Brock Lesnar is a joke athlete you might want to lookup his past college merits, aswell as his test scores when he tried out for the minnesota vikings.


Most of them are actually very successful wrestlers (as in NCAA, not wwe) and bjj guys. World class athletes.

From what I understand, Brock became UFC champion after less than 3 years of training in MMA. He used his natural size and strength to compensate his lack of actual fighting talent, and ended up beating very experienced fighters before winning the heavyweight title. To become champion with less than three years of experience is impossible to achieve in modern day boxing.

[Barry Halls]

No it's not. You're a ****** and a moron. Boxing is not driven by PPV. Boxing has far more normal shows and generates on a world wide level most of its money from NON PPV. The only PPV you're referring to is HBO boxing for the most part. So you're comparing entire UFC to just HBO a single channel? Are you dumb or just ******ed?

I guess it's a sore subject for you. Sad.

I'm comparing UFC's ppv numbers against boxings ppv numbers.

UFC have a fair share of free cards aswell that could be compared to hbo BAD etc.

I never said mma is bigger than boxing globally.

There are hundreds of boxing matches worldwide per day that you never hear of and they are generating money. All this money on a world wide scale makes boxing utterly DOMINATE UFC/MMA in total earnings. Boxing worldwide destroys UFC in total earnings. You're comparing only PPV which is the ONLY thing UFC has, but PPV is only a very small part (mostly HBO) of mainstream boxing.

As i said. I never said UFC is bigger than boxing on a global scale. Only in US.

PPV boxing is not a small part. Most of the really big fights are PPV and that ofcourse is a great indicator on the sports popularity.
The fact that UFC can keep up their 500k+ numbers while doing multiple ppv shows per month is really impressive.

And if you would compared HBO bad, FNF etc against the free mma that is on tv, theres probably not a big difference.

Learn what you're talking about first before exposing yourself as a complete moron. Boxing earns far more $$$ world wide than UFC/MMA.

It's sad to see you combine your tourettes with an inability to read.

[etlux]

They sell out arenas in Australia, Germany and England like it's the united states. They have plans on going to Japan and China right away and everywhere else in Europe, remember the UFC only got big around 2005-2006 unlike Boxing that's been around since my great grandpa was born. Give them time..

Stop making it sound like they do it on a constant basis, truth is they sold out a few times and boxing sells out ten times more arenas in Europe. Boxing dominates Europe, no one even knows or cares about UFC over there just because they sold out once or twice whereas Boxing regularly sells out Arenas in europe on a constant basis. Boxing has made viewing records in the past few years in many european countries such as Germany. UFC does no such thing there.

[Dorian]

No it's not. It's huge in brazil but everywhere else boxing is much bigger. You can't cover the facts and the numbers.

They just sold out a soccer stadium in Toronto for a UFC event and in Montreal the tickets get sold out in 24 hours(especially when GSP fights) and now their holding a UFC event in Vancover(Dos Santos vs Carwin).

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Heard of GSP?


Kimbo.. lol. Yeah, huge star that got thrown out of the ufc after going 1-1.

If you think Brock Lesnar is a joke athlete you might want to lookup his past college merits, aswell as his test scores when he tried out for the minnesota vikings.


Most of them are actually very successful wrestlers (as in NCAA, not wwe) and bjj guys. World class athletes.

We don't see many great boxers, because that sport has its own pro circuit. We do see some great thaiboxers though.

& did brock lesnar make the team? I like GSP but he is nowhere near a transcendent athlete. GSP & Spider sliva are nowhere near mainstream level popularity in the U.S.

There is a serious talent shortage in the UFC/MMA. & for all the talk about UFC/MMA having the ability to make fights vs the best, well spider silva vs GSP never happened as did all the other potential FEDOR fights before he lost.

UFC has reached its plateau. Every time i watch a MMA fight, the majority of their fighter's striking technique is sloppy, their stamina very amateurish, & the majority of their fights are crappy due to all the clinching on the floor & on the cage.

Their business model might be great but they do not have a proven talent factory that churns out great talent year in year out like boxing.

[Rocky Rode]

Japan?

I always thought boxing was very mainstream in Japan. I've heard Koki Kameda was like the biggest athlete in Japan. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I heard he was a Floyd Mayweather type of figure out there. He does huge numbers because the media portrays him as a "villian" and people tune in to see him lose.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

I don't know...boxing COULD be in trouble once Pacquiao retires and if/when Mayweather ever OFFICIAL RETIRES

other then those two fighter, NO other fighter is doing major PPV Numbers

it is enough room for BOTH Boxing and MMA obviously but I do think boxing need to do a better job pumping up and introducing NEW FIGHTERS TO THE FANS, instead of giving HBO 24/7 to the same damn fighters, how about doing it for fighters we are not as familiar with, like they probably should have did one for Alexander vs Bradley (even though the fight was a major disappointment, Berto vs Ortiz would have been a fun one, also Williams vs Martinez II, a Pascal vs Hopkins 24/7 would have been AMAZING especially considering how GREAT the Faceoff was, they SHOULD do one for Wlad vs Haye (but they probably won't) just to name a few...also maybe have more Division Tournaments or something, Showtime Super Six did go as smooth as they would like with all the replacement fights but I think that has been a huge success...especially for younger fighters like Ward and Dirrell who nobody really knew before that Tournament

The problem though is that the YOUNG Kids are WAY more into the UFC then they are into BOXING...that is something that could hurt boxing LONG TERM

also I have to give the EDGE to the UFC as far as building up and introducing NEW and YOUNG TALENT, guys like Jon Jones and Phil Davis just to name a few, they are doing a good job building up and showcasing their YOUNG STARS...a much better then job then what boxing has done IMO!

but while all you fans are busying bashing Pacquiao and Mayweather...if that fight never happens...that could be something people look back and say "THAT IS WHY BOXING FELL OFF...BECAUSE THE MAYWEATHER vs PACQUIAO FIGHT NEVER HAPPENED"

[NSX-R]

BTW, MMA is actually not that popular in Brazil. The sport is more widely recognized in Canada, Japan, and America. There are no major MMA leagues in Brazil and the sport is not widely recognized by media, although that is changing. Virtually all of their top fighters, which come from a very small talent pool, are forced to relocate overseas.

Football is the only sport that matters in Brazil. BJJ and MMA don't come close.

[Barry Halls]

From what I understand, Brock became UFC champion after less than 3 years of training in MMA. He used his natural size and strength to compensate his lack of actual fighting talent, and ended up beating very experienced fighters before winning the heavyweight title. To become champion with less than three years of experience is impossible to achieve in modern day boxing.

he used his 20+ years of wrestling to put the fight in a place where he had the advantage. Size and strength don't get you far in mma, just look at bob sapp or mariusz pudzianowski.

I do agree it currently takes more athletic ability to make it to the top in boxing (generally.. i think GSP is just as great an athlete as the top guys in boxing). The competition is also much stronger in boxing.. Looking at it from a competitive standpoint, UFC/mma is not even close.