Will Andre Ward One Day Be Number #1 P4P?

[the_blueprint]

i like peter quillin, he has very good power and now that he trains at the wild card with roach i think he will improve a lot. he beat brinkley easily.

as for ward being #1 P4P i'm not sure if he'll be first but he be as high as 3 atleast, it all depends on the other fighters getting big fights, he's lucky that he is in the super six, it's been great for his reputation. I'd like to see him fight bute after the tourney.

[Walt Liquor]

I think you talking about he fight against one of the chin checkers Curtis Stevens where Dirrell just basically ran all night. It was horrible to watch.

yes, that's it. the dude brinkley beat down.

dirrell steadily looked better every fight after until he just seemed to lose it. he improved after giving away the froch fight even (which I thought he won)

[jrosales13]

Not to mention Andrade basically stopped Bute.

I noticed Bute supporters never want to include that.

He didn't stop Bute but whatever if he did, he did. That means that Bute stoppage for Andrade favor is much much better than anything AA has done. So for Bute to go and stop him in 4 afterwards to remove all doubts ****s on anything Ward has done excluding the Kessler win.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=jrosales13;10545350]Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....I get it, so what you done in one division counts for another division as well...

ahhh...OK









Big difference between losing to Ward, Froch, and Dirrell as opposed to losing to Aaron Pryor jr. But if you think Andrade is as credible Abraham more power to you.

[Walt Liquor]

bute was up in 10 seconds. his glove was off the ground. that wasn't a stoppage

[joseph5620]

He didn't stop Bute but whatever if he did, he did. That means that Bute stoppage for Andrade favor is much much better than anything AA has done. So for Bute to go and stop him in 4 afterwards to remove all doubts ****s on anything Ward has done excluding the Kessler win.

Yet your argument is that the only thing that separates Ward and Bute is Kessler. You say that Andrade and Abraham are equal. If so, the difference is that Ward dominated Abraham in one fight. He didn't need two fights to get it right or a referee to save him from a KO. Maybe you can enlighten us when that happened to Ward.

[Walt Liquor]

Yet your argument is that the only thing that separates Ward and Bute is Kessler. You say that Andrade and Abraham are equal. With that the difference is that Ward dominated Abraham in one fight. He didn't need to two fights to get it right or a referee to save him from a KO. Maybe you can enlighten us when that happened to Ward.

bute dominated the entire first fight with andrade but ran out of gas. he traines harder now and you see the results.

[joseph5620]

bute dominated the entire first fight with andrade but ran out of gas. he traines harder now and you see the results.

The question is when did that ever happen to Ward? Since there seems to be a debate on who should rank higher.

[jrosales13]

Big difference between losing to Ward, Froch, and Dirrell as opposed to losing to Aaron Pryor jr. But if you think Andrade is as credible Abraham more power to you.

WTF has AA done at 168? What to make him a top opponent? I have asked that question 3 times already and nobody has giving me an answer? Because he stopped 2 guys who had done **** in the division and a bum? That's all he has done at 168. What makes him a top opponent at 168? What? What he did at 160? Because, of what he did at 160? OK man

[Kevin Malone]

The American writers will try to make him p4p #1.

But he's not really all that talented, or he wouldn't need to resort to illegal tactics like deliberate headbutts and hitting off the break.

Both Froch and Bute should be ranked ahead of him right now.

Froch? No doubt.

Bute? No chance in hell. I don't know why people like him. Since he got a gift against Andrade, he KO'd Andrade (like he should have), Brinkley, Miranda, and Magee. His resume blows compared to Ward's and it's not even close..