If Sergio was a natural WW, would he beat Pac or Mayweather?

[Bushbaby]

Yes perhaps they could fight him at 154, but they won't settle at 154 because I believe 147 is their best weights.

Well, Martinez is a threat but I don't think he is doing greater things exactly. He is more active though.

Martinez clearly has had a better 2010 than Pacman,Floyd was irrelevant.He's also had a better fight head to head concerning him & Pacman in 2011.Dzinziruk ****s on Mosley big time,plus the performance factor.Pacman is the greater fighter overall.But as of recently Martinez has done better things for the sport & for his case of being higher pfp.

[P.K]

the fact that martinez cannot make 150 lbs (marg was able to make 150 lbs) means he at this point in his career is way too big for pac or gayweather.

It's similar to Pac and May. At 147 there's no one that is a huge threat left, but 154 is just too big. GFor example Martinez will find it hard to fight guys at 154 and 160 who are really good now, but at 168 there are. So should he move up? Will he take the challenge becaause Ishida and bik aren't really. IMO.

[physiker]

the fact that martinez cannot make 150 lbs (marg was able to make 150 lbs) means he at this point in his career is way too big for pac or gayweather.

Even if he did make 150, I believe he would likely gain much weight immediately after the weigh-in and still have an advantage. I see they are beginning to have 2 separate weight limitations for fights. At the weigh in and a 2nd just before the fight.

[kadyo's]

Stones is trying to play P4P305 or Larry?

[chinoy]

you do know that Roach does not want Pac to fight anyone above 147lbs after the margarito fight right....or are you having that selective amnesia again

U do know that Martinez's dimensions are about the same size as Oscar & Margarito right.Besides Martinez is more the size of jr middleweight than middleweight.When it comes to fighting real fighters & not stiffs,then all of a sudden Floyd & Manny are too small.But Floyd wasn't to small when he beat Oscar at 154 & Pacman wasn't too small when he beat Margarito for the 154 title.All of a sudden they're to small though when an elite fighter who isn't shot wants to meet them their & settle who's the best active fighter.

[Bushbaby]

you do know that Roach does not want Pac to fight anyone above 147lbs after the margarito fight right....or are you having that selective amnesia again

Oh,he'll fight above 147 if the guys shot & easy pickings,believe that.

[physiker]

Oh,he'll fight above 147 if the guys shot & easy pickings,believe that.

Well that's probably true. To cement his legacy, some light MW, or full MW without much power. Do you see someone there that PAc's people might make a fight with for his legacy?

And I am somewhat of a Pac fan, so I am not saying from Pac's POV, this is necessarily a bad thing. He does not have too many fights left in him. Gotta make em count. And the Marquez fight is to shut people up about the earlier 2fights. But any more from Pac, after the Mosley debacle, will have to be more significant.

[SERVILEV]

Nope, and whos to say he can beat either right now?? you make it sound like neither has a chance against him!! lmbo.. What he needs to do is face Marg again, just to see if he can beat him now.. He does that i believe he could get one of the two in the ring.. imo

[gatagata]

I don't know about Mayweather but I think he whoops Manny's ass.

[Pullcounter]

Even if he did make 150, I believe he would likely gain much weight immediately after the weigh-in and still have an advantage. I see they are beginning to have 2 separate weight limitations for fights. At the weigh in and a 2nd just before the fight.

martinez can't make 150 lbs... no if ands or buts.