If Sergio was a natural WW, would he beat Pac or Mayweather?

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  • Rocky Rode
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    Nice try but Martinez & Margarito weight around the same on fight night.Even when Martinez is fighting at middleweight.Ur theory is debunked.
    Yup. When Martinez comes in at 158 he weighs about 168 fight night. When Margarito weighed in at 150 he came in at 165 on fight night.... They're both basically the same size...If Martinez came into a fight at the full 154 pound limit he'll probably weigh about 165 on fight night. The same size as Margarito.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #42
      Originally posted by Rocky Rode
      Yup. When Martinez comes in at 158 he weighs about 168 fight night. When Margarito weighed in at 150 he came in at 165 on fight night.... They're both basically the same size...If Martinez came into a fight at the full 154 pound limit he'll probably weigh about 165 on fight night. The same size as Margarito.
      Yeah,every excuse gets debunked.He fought Margarito because he was shot.He won't fight Martinez because he isn't.

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      • Pinoy4ever
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        #43
        Hard question maybe Sergio should just move down to 147 so let's see.

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        • RealIzm
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          #44
          Sergio would beat both....Sergio has the best qualities from Floyd and Manny with his own twist.

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          • P.K
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            #45
            Mayweather does need to come back

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            • ksan
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              #46
              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              Yeah,every excuse gets debunked.He fought Margarito because he was shot.He won't fight Martinez because he isn't.
              Just like Martinez will not fight Dirrell, Ward, Froch or Bute

              Or Pascal and Dawson.

              He may try to fight Kessler or Abraham.

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                #47
                Originally posted by empiricix
                You don't see the size difference between Margarito and Martinez? Try this: Margarito made 150 lbs for his fight with Pac while Sergio claims that he would need to lose an arm or a leg to make 150.

                Question: If Margarito outweighed Pac by 17 lbs on fight night despite making 150 at weigh-in, by how much would Sergio out-weigh Pac on fight night?

                Answer: From 22-25 lbs.

                Conclusion: Asking Pac to fight Sergio at 154 is not asking him to take on a challenge, it's asking him to lose a fight.
                Exactly, all this martinez and cheato are the same size **** is a joke. If they are the "same size" then martinez can come down to 150 with no problem. If he can't, then they're not the "same size".

                Either way that cheato fight showed just how small pac really is, he had no business going up that high the first time and said so immediately after the fight. ******s clamoring for this fight just want to see pac take a beating, and because there isn't anyone around his weight class that can do it, he needs to jump all the way up and fight the best middle weight in the world? Give me a break, that fight should happen right after martinez jumps up and fights vitali. If he's really that good, he needs to move up and prove it. Weight doesn't win fights, skill does, he should have zero problems at heavy weight.

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                • ksan
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JoeDaWg
                  Exactly, all this martinez and cheato are the same size **** is a joke. If they are the "same size" then martinez can come down to 150 with no problem. If he can't, then they're not the "same size".

                  Either way that cheato fight showed just how small pac really is, he had no business going up that high the first time and said so immediately after the fight. ******s clamoring for this fight just want to see pac take a beating, and because there isn't anyone around his weight class that can do it, he needs to jump all the way up and fight the best middle weight in the world? Give me a break, that fight should happen right after martinez jumps up and fights vitali. If he's really that good, he needs to move up and prove it. Weight doesn't win fights, skill does, he should have zero problems at heavy weight.

                  Great post!

                  But Martinez doesn't have to go that far in weight hahah

                  He should instead try to fight Dirrell, Ward, Bute, Froch, Pascal or Dawson.


                  I'm sure Martinez fans will love those fights.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    U do know that Martinez's dimensions are about the same size as Oscar & Margarito right.Besides Martinez is more the size of jr middleweight than middleweight.When it comes to fighting real fighters & not stiffs,then all of a sudden Floyd & Manny are too small.But Floyd wasn't to small when he beat Oscar at 154 & Pacman wasn't too small when he beat Margarito for the 154 title.All of a sudden they're to small though when an elite fighter who isn't shot wants to meet them their & settle who's the best active fighter.
                    Exactly, Martinez is no bigger than Oscar and Margarito. It's the skills that Martinez has that has everyone fearful.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter

                      the fact that martinez cannot make 150 lbs (marg was able to make 150 lbs) means he at this point in his career is way too big for pac or gayweather.
                      I'm sure he could make 150, but Martinez is smart enough to know that he'd only be handing Pacquiao the win. I'm sure you know that yourself.

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