Teddy Atlas: If Manny is that great he should step up and fight Sergio Martinez!

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  • Frogs!
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    #121
    Originally posted by uglypug
    you are right; the more body mass you have, the lower the percentage between strength per pound.
    reason why in the lower weights, the difference between weight divisions are between 3 - 8 lbs only.

    while from light heavy to cruiserweight is a 25 lb jump and the heavies go unlimited beyond that.

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      #122
      Originally posted by BoxingFollower
      I've said MANY times that the Klits are TOO BIG, im not sure if you guys are being foreal or if your using sarcasm, but there is nothing wrong with a WW the supposed greatest fighter of all time moving up to MW.

      It has been done numerous of times before.
      I don't think the *****s are capable of that kind of thinking.

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        #123
        Originally posted by BoxingFollower
        Lol you just proved my point, the only reason why Pacquiao fans don't wanna see him fight Sergio because they know that it was be a EASY fight for Pacquiao.

        None of these younger guys have hearts, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito all the main WWs today are cowards compared to WW's of the past. They all claim there so good, but are afraid to take on a real challenge. Shane being the only one with heart out of ALL the current main WW's.

        *******s are even worse, just look at videos of ALI on youtube. you'll see ******* saying that "Pacquiao would knock our a Prime Ali, or he would knock out a Prime Tyson, there so full of themselves, well why not fight a MW.

        So if those fighters you said have no hearts, then how come Sergio can't move up in weight to super mw? No heart either.

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          #124
          Originally posted by loui_ludwig
          So if those fighters you said have no hearts, then how come Sergio can't move up in weight to super mw? No heart either.
          Sergio will move up sooner or later, Sergio is just trying to get the BIG PAY DAYS, just like Pacquiao and Mayweather are, and it just happens that all the big PAY DAYS are at WW or around JMW.

          Just like when SRL moved up to MW, it was because there was no more big Paydays at WW left, so he moved up.

          You can't blame Sergio for wanting to make money, because Bob Arum surely makes sure Pacquiao does.

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            #125
            Originally posted by BoxingFollower
            Lol you just proved my point, the only reason why Pacquiao fans don't wanna see him fight Sergio because they know that it was be a EASY fight for Pacquiao.

            None of these younger guys have hearts, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito all the main WWs today are cowards compared to WW's of the past. They all claim there so good, but are afraid to take on a real challenge. Shane being the only one with heart out of ALL the current main WW's.

            *******s are even worse, just look at videos of ALI on youtube. you'll see ******* saying that "Pacquiao would knock our a Prime Ali, or he would knock out a Prime Tyson, there so full of themselves, well why not fight a MW.


            Maybe, Pacquiao should be handicapped and should only use his right hand.

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              #126
              Henry Armstrong jumped from Featherweight all the way to Welterweight to win that title. And then came down to Lightweight to win that title. That's greatness.

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                #127
                Originally posted by BoxingFollower
                Sergio will move up sooner or later, Sergio is just trying to get the BIG PAY DAYS, just like Pacquiao and Mayweather are, and it just happens that all the big PAY DAYS are at WW or around JMW.

                Just like when SRL moved up to MW, it was because there was no more big Paydays at WW left, so he moved up.

                You can't blame Sergio for wanting to make money, because Bob Arum surely makes sure Pacquiao does.
                So why doesn't he come down to WW?

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Bee Keepz
                  So why doesn't he come down to WW?
                  He did say he would come down to 154 to make any match with any WW. Cotto can make 154, Mayweather can, and Pacquiao can, maybe shy by a few pounds though.

                  Your not suggesting that Sergio come down to 147 or 135 are you?? Because that sounds like your trying to make him a non threat.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                    Atlas mentioned Pernell Whitaker and Sugar Ray Leonard, i forgot the others.

                    Whitaker was 153 against JC Vasquez at jr. middleweight. Sugar Ray Leonard weigh in 165 against Lalonde at super middleweight. Pac against Margarito at a catchweight of 150 was 144.
                    And Whitaker never fought there again, when he could've fought Terry Norris for big money. No-one diminishes his legacy because of that.

                    Leonard won the light heavyweight belt too the same night weighing 165 against Lalonde, and then relinquished it when he could have been fighting real champs like Virgil Hill and Michael Moorer. He's allowed to claim they were too big for him, but Pac isn't?

                    He instead defended the supermiddleweight belt he won at catchweights weighing 160 against Hearns and Duran. That was 4-5 division from where he started at welterweight. Pac is fighting 10 or 11 divisions above where he started to put things into proper persective.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by BoxingFollower
                      He did say he would come down to 154 to make any match with any WW. Cotto can make 154, Mayweather can, and Pacquiao can, maybe shy by a few pounds though.

                      Your not suggesting that Sergio come down to 147 or 135 are you?? Because that sounds like your trying to make him a non threat.


                      ....and you're asking someone who can't crack 150 to fight the MIDDLEWEIGHT champ?

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