JMM was 145lb fight night with Katsidis

[Deevel916]

Pac is a typical WW he has been fighting pretty much since 2008 and is clear strong at WW weighing in at 146.

Marquez on the other hand, is the polar opposite. And weighing in at 142, is slow, blown up, and physcially a mess.

How can you not grasp this?

Aside from Floyd, name me another WW who comes into the ring weighing beneath 150 after the weigh in.

[IronDanHamza]

Aside from Floyd, name me another WW who comes into the ring weighing beneath 150 after the weigh in.

I'm not sure off the top of my head. This means what exactly?

Pac still weighs in comfortably at 146.

Marquez doesn't weigh in comfortably above 140, which is solid fact.

Fight night weights are irrelevant considering Marquez doesn't belong above 140.

Again, these are facts.

[sceneboxing]

Facts are a stubborn thing. I haven't read a good argument against this yet. The real disadvantage is not weight. It's age.

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People just don't get it. So Marquez looked horrible at his only fight above 140? He went against one of the best boxers of all time, who looked to have at least a 10 pound advantage over him and was clearly the smarter, stronger, and faster fighter. Of course he was going to get his ass kicked.

It's really unknown how well Marquez will do at 140+. But weight is not an issue here since both of them are the same size at fight night, the issue is that Marquez is slower and old as ****, and Manny is on a roll.

[Deevel916]

I'm not sure off the top of my head. This means what exactly?

Pac still weighs in comfortably at 146.

Marquez doesn't weigh in comfortably above 140, which is solid fact.

Fight night weights are irrelevant considering Marquez doesn't belong above 140.

Again, these are facts.

Facts are Marquez's weigh in and fight night weights. If he doesnt belong fighting above 140, he would not weigh above 140 when its time to fight. Are u telling me you know more than Marquez does about his own body?

I give up on you. A weight advantage or disadvantage is when a fighter drastically weighs more than another when its time to trade punches. In this case, neither fighter will have a weight advantage. Goodnight.

[IronDanHamza]

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People just don't get it. So Marquez looked horrible at his only fight above 140? He went against one of the best boxers of all time, who looked to have at least a 10 pound advantage over him and was clearly the smarter, stronger, and faster fighter. Of course he was going to get his ass kicked.

It's really unknown how well Marquez will do at 140+. But weight is not an issue here since both of them are the same size at fight night, it's the fact that Marquez is slower and old as ****, and Manny is on a roll.

So, Marquez can legitly compete above 140 is what you're saying?

So I assume Floyd gets full credit from you for his win over him, right?

But, weight is an issue because Marquez will be a blown up Lightweight and Pacqiauo will be a fleged WW. Regardless to if they weigh the same on fight night.

[Deevel916]

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People just don't get it. So Marquez looked horrible at his only fight above 140? He went against one of the best boxers of all time, who looked to have at least a 10 pound advantage over him and was clearly the smarter, stronger, and faster fighter. Of course he was going to get his ass kicked.

It's really unknown how well Marquez will do at 140+. But weight is not an issue here since both of them are the same size at fight night, the issue is that Marquez is slower and old as ****, and Manny is on a roll.

Holy ****. Someone who makes sense! Thank you.

Green K coming your way.

[sceneboxing]

So, Marquez can legitly compete above 140 is what you're saying?

So I assume Floyd gets full credit from you for his win over him, right?

But, weight is an issue because Marquez will be a blown up Lightweight and Pacqiauo will be a fleged WW. Regardless to if they weigh the same on fight night.

Wow, my old post pretty much answered what you just said.

[Deevel916]

So, Marquez can legitly compete above 140 is what you're saying?

So I assume Floyd gets full credit from you for his win over him, right?

But, weight is an issue because Marquez will be a blown up Lightweight and Pacqiauo will be a fleged WW. Regardless to if they weigh the same on fight night.

Dude, full fledged WW's come into the ring on fight night weighing in excess of 155+ I've seen WW come in at 170 before. Clottey vs Coralles. Pac barely puts on a pound or 2 after the weigh in. Pac weighs on fight night what a LWW weighs on fight night.

[IronDanHamza]

Facts are Marquez's weigh in and fight night weights. If he doesnt belong fighting above 140, he would not weigh above 140 when its time to fight. Are u telling me you know more than Marquez does about his own body?

He weighs in at 135, and then comes in tot he fight over 140. Weighing in at 140 is an utterly different matter. Refer back to the Arturo Gatti example.

No I don't know more about Marquez' body than he does. But evidently you think you do since Marquez openly states that when he weighed in at 142 it had a clear effect on his body.

Which you are chosing to ignore for some reason.

I give up on you. A weight advantage or disadvantage is when a fighter drastically weighs more than another when its time to trade punches. In this case, neither fighter will have a weight advantage. Goodnight.

It is when you are weighing in at above 140 which he most likely will.

Either way if he weighs in at 135 he is still at a disadvantage. Are we going to act like Manny isn't a bigger and stronger fighter now than he was 2 years ago?

The fact is JMM is a lightweight. Weighing in at 144 or wherever is obviously going to have an effect on him. Just like it actually has in the past.

No matter who he fights.

[Imatroll]

He weighs in at 135, and then comes in tot he fight over 140. Weighing in at 140 is an utterly different matter. Refer back to the Arturo Gatti example.

Then couldn't JMM weigh in at 135 and then rehydrate to 145lb like the katsidis fight? The one where he won by TKO?

Nobody is forcing JMM to come in over 140lb. Come on son...