Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Ponders Return To Junior Middleweight

[loui_ludwig]

Martinez:
Height- 5ft, 10in
Reach- 75in

Andre Ward:
Height- 6ft, 1in
Reach- 73in

Carl Froch:
Height- 6ft, 1in
Reach- 74.5in

Lucien Bute:
Height- 6ft, 1.5in
Reach- 72in

Martinez has reach but he is way shorter than anyone worth fighting at 168 and he would be outweighed by like 10 pounds on fight night.

So its OK for Pac to fight Martinez but not Martinez fighting the SMW fighters.

[UglyPug]

Moving in the wrong direction

There's nothing really at 154 except maybe Cotto

168 has way more to offer

correct. he has already been champ at 154, and 160; only logical place to go is 168 if you really are fighting "to be the best" like you say over and over again. . . and sergio constantly says this

[Khalid X]

I don't understand why Sergio wouldn't want to move UP in weight instead of draining himself down. There's some great if not better competition up at SMW, especially after the Super Six Tournament concludes.

Comen on Sergio. I think you could beat nearly all the big players up at SMW, with a hell of a couple of incredibly good fights with Ward and Bute. Just go for it!!!!!!

TBH, and no disrespect to you, but Martinez would be at such a disadvantage against those guys. Bute is anywhere between 182-185 on fight night and Andre Ward actually is up there as well.

Not only will he be giving up 15-20lbs on fight night, those guys are pretty quick themselves, along with carrying more punching power then Martinez. Sergio would be in a ****load of trouble against anyone those elite super middleweights.

just image
Bute 6-2 185lbs
Martinez 5-10 166lbs

Then combine Bute's technique, skill and punching power....I just can't see Martinez lasting long. People won't realize how much bigger those guys are until Martinez steps in the ring with them (which will never happen).

[Khalid X]

Sergio is a small MW and would be a tiny SMW

I agree. Some of those guys get in the mid 180's and possible even close to 190. Martinez barely weighs the SMW limit on fightnight, and I see him getting demolished against guys like Dirrell, Ward, Froch and Bute.

[Check_hooks]

How many mandatories will this guy duck and dodge? And less than 2 years ago he said that the only way he could go to 154 is if he cut off a leg.

He is so scared of Pirog its not even funny.

[badass316]

Martinez:
Height- 5ft, 10in
Reach- 75in

Andre Ward:
Height- 6ft, 1in
Reach- 73in

Carl Froch:
Height- 6ft, 1in
Reach- 74.5in

Lucien Bute:
Height- 6ft, 1.5in
Reach- 72in

Martinez has reach but he is way shorter than anyone worth fighting at 168 and he would be outweighed by like 10 pounds on fight night.

Giving up 2-3 inches doesn't make him way shorter than those guys. Hell, he gave up 5-6 inches against Williams and he seemed to cope with the height difference rather well. If Sergio wanted to try his hand at 168, I'm sure he can be successful. His ability to cope with the size disadvantage and take Pavlik's punch pretty well is a good indication of this.

[mathed]

In that case people should never mention Martinez fighting Pac then. Look at the size difference there. I really don't think height is as important as reach. What weight does Sergio walk around at?

Not sure but I think upper 160's or mid 170's. These SMW's are walking around at 185 or 190...maybe more. Their frames are just gonna be bigger just as Martinez's frame would be bigger than Pac's.

[AssasinKing]

fight martinez pac !! tired of u ripping us off . FIGHT SOMEONE GOOD MANROID!!!!

Yeah pac your 2 big for the WW Division

Face some1 that will come in the ring at 170+ pounds its only fair!!!

/end sarcasm

[Khalid X]

I think he should stay around 157 so he can fight at MW, and dip down for the bigger names at 154.

154-160 is where he should finish his career at because another thing not mentioned is a lot of those SMW will be moving up soon (possible after the super 6).

In that range (154-160) there are guys like Angulo, Pirog, Sturm, Cotto, just to name a few.

[mathed]

Giving up 2-3 inches doesn't make him way shorter than those guys. Hell, he gave up 5-6 inches against Williams and he seemed to cope with the height difference rather well. If Sergio wanted to try his hand at 168, I'm sure he can be successful. His ability to cope with the size disadvantage and take Pavlik's punch pretty well is a good indication of this.

Pavlik was pushing Martinez around when they fought. His reach and distance fighting approach allows him to "fight tall" even though he is shorter. Their shoulders will be wider, legs longer, and they will likely be able to push him around.