Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Ponders Return To Junior Middleweight

[loui_ludwig]

Bernard Hopkins is huge compared to Sergio and had been struggling to make 160 for years, whereas Martinez could likely still make 154.

Dude, if Sergio can still make 154, you are being a little silly arguing that he should be fighting at SMW.

From back then, Hopkins wasn't struggling to make weight when he fought Tarver. He hired a trainer/nutrionist for going up to 175.

Martinez could likely make 154 but didn't he say that he had a hard time making 154. Even of a fight against Pac with a catchweight, he said 155. I have nothing against Martinez, his been impressing me when he beat Pavlik and Williams. Its ******ed to say that Sergio being too small at smw doesn't mean he will lose to all smw top fighters.

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From back then, Hopkins wasn't struggling to make weight when he fought Tarver. He hired a trainer/nutrionist for going up to 175.

Martinez could likely make 154 but didn't he say that he had a hard time making 154.

It is hard work, but according to his team Sergio can still make 154.

Even of a fight against Pac with a catchweight, he said 155.

No he did not. Martinez called out Pac at 154 when Manny was the WBC champ, and he called out Mayweather at the same weight. 155 was for Cotto, with Sergio's middleweight belt on the line.

The potential matchup with Pac, would be at JMW, 154lbs.

Its ******ed to say that Sergio being too small at smw doesn't mean he will lose to all smw top fighters.

I never said that he would lose at SMW, I said that it is ******ed to insist that he should fight at 168, when Martinez can still make 154.

This is a pointless debate imho, because CLEARLY, Sergio is no SMW.

[Mikhnienko]

TBH, and no disrespect to you, but Martinez would be at such a disadvantage against those guys. Bute is anywhere between 182-185 on fight night and Andre Ward actually is up there as well.

Not only will he be giving up 15-20lbs on fight night, those guys are pretty quick themselves, along with carrying more punching power then Martinez. Sergio would be in a ****load of trouble against anyone those elite super middleweights.

just image
Bute 6-2 185lbs
Martinez 5-10 166lbs

Then combine Bute's technique, skill and punching power....I just can't see Martinez lasting long. People won't realize how much bigger those guys are until Martinez steps in the ring with them (which will never happen).

No he is not and stop making **** up.

Martinez gave his weights in the middle of training camp for the PW II and Dzinziruk fight. He was 174 and 176 a month away from the fight. He must walk around at about 180.

Martinez was 170 or 171 in the ring vs Dzinziruk

Froch fight night against AA was 170 and has stated tht he doesn't cut weight.

Ward has said something similar, that he doesn't cut weight he just loses a few lbs in training camp.

Kessler i haven't heard him say but i can't imagine he's any heavier than those two, he has a smaller frame than Froch and his shoulders, back, arms are all smaller.

All those guys are a reasonably similar size to Martinez and in the ring they would all weigh within a pound or two of eachother.

Bute comes in the ring at around 182 but so did Pavlik. There is no reason Martinez shouldn't be fighting them. Diaconu, Cloud, Johnson are top LHW's that are 5'10 and Martinez has more reach than every SMW.

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No he is not and stop making **** up.

Martinez gave his weights in the middle of training camp for the PW II and Dzinziruk fight. He was 174 and 176 a month away from the fight. He must walk around at about 180.

Martinez was 170 or 171 in the ring vs Dzinziruk

Froch fight night against AA was 170 and has stated tht he doesn't cut weight.

Ward has said something similar, that he doesn't cut weight he just loses a few lbs in training camp.

Kessler i haven't heard him say but i can't imagine he's any heavier than those two, he has a smaller frame than Froch and his shoulders, back, arms are all smaller.

All those guys are a reasonably similar size to Martinez and in the ring they would all weigh within a pound or two of eachother.

Bute comes in the ring at around 182 but so did Pavlik. There is no reason Martinez shouldn't be fighting them. Diaconu, Cloud, Johnson are top LHW's that are 5'10 and Martinez has more reach than every SMW.

CLEARLY, Martinez is not a SMW, or even close.

He is a large JMW who can still make 154.

[loui_ludwig]

No he did not. Martinez called out Pac at 154 when Manny was the WBC champ, and he called out Mayweather at the same weight. 155 was for Cotto, with Sergio's middleweight belt on the line.

The potential matchup with Pac, would be at JMW, 154lbs.

155 was for Pac not Cotto.

http://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-arum-lets-make-pacquiao-martinez-155--33107

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155 was for Pac not Cotto.

http://www.boxingscene.com/dibella-a...nez-155--33107

No man, I remember distinctly.

I would suggest that you are quoting a typo.

Why the *** would Sergio insist upon 155? He wanted to challenge for Manny's JMW title, so 155 makes no sense at all.

The 154 offer was for Pacquiao and Mayweather.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergio-martinez-ill-challenge-pacquiao-his-154-title--33164

The 154 offer was for Pacquiao and Mayweather.....
http://www.*************.com/headlin...cquiao-at-154/
http://www.************.com/2010/11/...cquiao-at-154/
http://www.**********.com/pag/article.php?aid=21259

http://www.boxingdispatch.com/2011/02/dibella-martinez-would-knock-pacquiao-the-out/

http://www.boxingdispatch.com/2011/03/manny-pacquiao-sergio-martinez-showdown-implausible-but-not-impossible/

http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-jackson/martinez-will-murder-pacquiao-at-154

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/7957/2010-11-25/Sergio-Martinez-Ill-Challenge-Pacquiao-For-His-154-Title

155 offer was for Cotto, so that he could challenge for Martinez' MW strap.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergio-martinez-still-wants-crack-miguel-cotto-155--34303

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=5878407

http://slumz.boxden.com/f353/sergio-...155-a-1470429/