Shane Mosley Floyd Mayweather Jr.: When Will He Get the Respect He Deserves?

[tomhawq]

You should chill on the ****rider label. I mean your name is "Pacfan". So the excuse is Marquez is a counter puncher? You should think before you say dumb ****. Marquez is a great fighter and not to mention one of my favorites. Why would he only be good at fighting one type of fighter and still be considered great. As much as you hate to admit it , Floyd toyed with Marquez coming off inactivity. If Pac fights Marquez at 147 whats your take on that? Katsidis knocked him down and he isnt the first and wont be the last to do it. If you've been paying attention a lot of guys have put him on the seat of his pants but he only has a hand full of losses. I'll put it this way, THERE IS NO WAY PAC CAN COAST AGAINST MARQUEZ! HE WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT HIS HEART OUT JUST LIKE THEIR LAST TWO FIGHTS at any weight. "***in believe it." (Kenny Powers)

dood, this doens't even deserve a long discussion. and i wish i have that kind of time like you peeps here have. styles make fights, you know this. and i don't understand why you seem to be employing the triangle theory here. every fight is different. i don't even know the concerns about a marquez trilogy. marquez will always give pac hell. the only element one could bring in this fight is a supposed new improved pac. that remains to be seen if the fight happens. the point is why include fighters that will be destined in the fantasy world? floyd beats marquez in a dazzling fashion. that's fine. can you honestly say that marquez would last a distance with guys such as cotto, clottey, margarito and mosley? hope that helps for now.

[WitherGlove]

alot of people, myself included, used to respect floyd during his pbf days. there was nothing to hate about the kid. now, as he started adopting the "money" persona, he shifted from the previous image and boxing fans kinda started to lose respect for him gradually. it's hard to respect someone who's not willing to respect others in the first place.

I think Floyd respects all the fighters he fight if he didn't he wouldn't train so hard. And if u noticed he always show them love after the fight. It's all a front to get haters and people who love him to tune in. the people who love him tune in the see him win the haters tune it to see him knocked out. Great business plan.

[studentofthegam]

dood, this doens't even deserve a long discussion. and i wish i have that kind of time like you peeps here have. styles make fights, you know this. and i don't understand why you seem to be employing the triangle theory here. every fight is different. i don't even know the concerns about a marquez trilogy. marquez will always give pac hell. the only element one could bring in this fight is a supposed new improved pac. that remains to be seen if the fight happens. the point is why include fighters that will be destined in the fantasy world? floyd beats marquez in a dazzling fashion. that's fine. can you honestly say that marquez would last a distance with guys such as cotto, clottey, margarito and mosley? hope that helps for now.

Why the hell did you et so emotional? And what are "peeps like me". Its not a triangle theory. We've seen both fighters take on a common guy. Like you said "styles make fights". And judging from the styles of Clottey, Cotto, and Margarito dont have as easy of a time against Marquez as Floyd did. I do pick Shane to win over Marquez fairly easy on power alone. The others may very well beat JMM but I cant see any making it a cake walk against one of the greatest counter punchers I've seen to date. Nothing unfair or dismissive about that point of view. And it damn sure aint a triangle theory. So read thoroughly the next time you have a tantrum.

[tomhawq]

Why the hell did you et so emotional? And what are "peeps like me". Its not a triangle theory. We've seen both fighters take on a common guy. Like you said "styles make fights". And judging from the styles of Clottey, Cotto, and Margarito dont have as easy of a time against Marquez as Floyd did. I do pick Shane to win over Marquez fairly easy on power alone. The others may very well beat JMM but I cant see any making it a cake walk against one of the greatest counter punchers I've seen to date. Nothing unfair or dismissive about that point of view. And it damn sure aint a triangle theory. So read thoroughly the next time you have a tantrum.

you heard me. marquez will always give pac hell even at welter. that's what you wanna hear, i supposed. i say it like it is. when you say that none of these guys who pac beat can do the same thing floyd did, that is in a glorious fashion, what can one say, really? how are we suppose to know when these didn't happen. like i will always say, it's all subjective. until we see these fights happen, just for comparison purposes..... it will all guess work. hope that helps.

[hugh grant]

DLH was past it and SSM was old, and JMM was overweight and bloated. Nothing wrong with Zab other than he wernt that great. Well, with Hatton we know he had a word with Cortez about Hattons dirty tactics and to avoid noticing his own dirty tactics and his own elbows.

[studentofthegam]

you heard me. marquez will always give pac hell even at welter. that's what you wanna hear, i supposed. i say it like it is. when you say that none of these guys who pac beat can do the same thing floyd did, that is in a glorious fashion, what can one say, really? how are we suppose to know when these didn't happen. like i will always say, it's all subjective. until we see these fights happen, just for comparison purposes..... it will all guess work. hope that helps.

Thats cool by me for you to have your own opinion. I felt like mine was just as honest but you jumped defensive automatically. I dont bash Pac for the record but I am well aware of both Manny and Floyd's limitations that they showed so far.

[studentofthegam]

DLH was past it and SSM was old, and JMM was overweight and bloated. Nothing wrong with Zab other than he wernt that great. Well, with Hatton we know he had a word with Cortez about Hattons dirty tactics and to avoid noticing his own dirty tactics and his own elbows.

Mosley wasnt old until after Floyd won a onesided fight. Everyonr thought DLH was a tough fight before it happened. JMM....Well it is what it is.....Big name ,big money, and a message to Roach and team Pac. And only a bad ref is gonna let a fighter hold a guy in place so he can land a punch. Cortez has never allowed much holding and hitting and does warn Floyd about the elbows. Floyd being a smart vet lays off the bows and uses them discreetly to prevent loss of points. All great fighters bend the rules so stop with the excuses.

[Reloaded]

DLH was past it and SSM was old, and JMM was overweight and bloated. Nothing wrong with Zab other than he wernt that great. Well, with Hatton we know he had a word with Cortez about Hattons dirty tactics and to avoid noticing his own dirty tactics and his own elbows.

Your such a sorry ass excuse off a poster , you prop Manny for ODH Shane , while you bag Floyd who beat much better versions , Floyd gave Oscar over a stone in weight Manny was heavier than a ****** out Oscar ya clown , your still whingeing about Floyd beating Hatton , it was the best version of Hatton to ever step into a ring , your such a sook of a little boy and I,ll bet my ass your a Pom !!

[mathed]

This is the best post i have seen on these boards since i joined.

Thanks man

[mathed]

I think Floyd respects all the fighters he fight if he didn't he wouldn't train so hard. And if u noticed he always show them love after the fight. It's all a front to get haters and people who love him to tune in. the people who love him tune in the see him win the haters tune it to see him knocked out. Great business plan.

I have always thought this as well but then he seems to get mad at the "haters". It's like man, you can't have your cake and eat it all too.