Is PBF a true "Superstar" in the truest sense??? Experiment...

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  • Bobby No Sex
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    #61
    ok i just got done off the basket ball court at my gym. so while we were waiting for the next game i heard this guys 8 of them talking about the UFC fight tomorrow so on and so forth. then someone said something about boxing so i said hey u guys watching the fight next week. they were like fawk yeah it's pacquiao right? that dudes a beast some guy said. then everyone started to talk about him more and more how humble he is and what not. let me tell u this i was the only filipino. majority were white dudes and a viet. then the viet said mayweather is never gonna fight him i think. then this white guy said who's that guy he the guy who fought dela hoya? and everyone was yeah what's his name? so i said floyd. and they were like that guy is all talk.

    now after the game i was at the steam room and this old guy saw my tattoo and asked me what it means. and i said it's the logo of my country philippines. and the old guy said "oh manny" i said yeah. he said fights next week. i said yeah but im not to excited about it. he said no one is going to defeat him.

    so it was a total of 9 people. not much but hey atleast he's getting a buzz

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    • JHAVIS
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      #62
      For these guys at your gym to ask who mayweather is, its obvious they don't watch boxing. If You know Manny, you know Floyd.

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      • BennyST
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        #63
        Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
        THE E.K. INFLUENCED "IS MAYWEATHER A SUPERSTAR??" POLL: OKAY a couple nights ago at my gym I polled twenty people, men and women, between the ages of 17 and 62...the night before, former amateur star Eric Kelly (National Golden Gloves Champion from Brooklyn, NY) says Mayweather IS a superstar...I disagreed...I say ALI, LEONARD AND TYSON were "Superstars"...ELVIS, Michael and Jordan were/are "Superstars"...but Floyd is not exactly one (yet?)...a "Star" yes...but a SUPERSTAR? Nah...so I went to my gym tonight and took it to the people and polled 20 non-boxers from the gym...

        I asked each of them if they ever heard of the following three people: Floyd Mayweather Jr., Derek Jeter and Enrique Iglesias.

        The results are as follows: All 20 had heard of Derek Jeter and Enrique Iglesias. 13 of the 20 had heard of Mayweather.

        Now, for the record, after I asked them that question I pressed them -dug a little deeper- on Pretty Boy Floyd.

        One female, aged 39, told me that the truth of the matter was the reason she knew who he was because as luck would have it she heard a news story about him just yesterday about him owing millions in taxes. She also said her husband is an amateur boxing coach at the Coast Guard Academy and she heard him mention Floyd's name before.

        Another female, aged 40, originally answered yes when I asked if she knew who Floyd was but...then she asked me if he boxed out of my gym (the one we were standing in at that moment here in Connecticut). (LOLOL, seriously)

        A 24 year old female said she had heard of him but then asked me if he was a middleweight. A 33 year old male said he knew he was a boxer but that was all he really knew.

        The 61 year old female said she knew him but when pressed she asked me if he was a wrestler or a boxer.

        The one person who seemed to really know something about him more than the fact that he is in fact a boxer was the 17 year old boy who told me, "yeah, I know who he is, he's a sick boxer!!"

        Finally the 38 year old who said she knew who he was admitted that the only reason she knew who he was is because she was with her husband at the Berto-Ortiz fight last week at Foxwoods and they introduced Floyd and 50 Cent to the crowd and she remembered his name from that.

        Also, almost each person who answered yes also said that to tell me the truth they know his name and that he is a boxer but if he were to walk in the gym at that very moment they wouldn't be able to pick him out and recognize him as Floyd Mayweather. If it was Jeter, yes, but Floyd ...no.

        So I would say, strictly based on this unofficial and very random polling today, that Floyd is a very recognizable name at this point but a SUPERSTAR?? No, not exactly. A great boxer YES but an instantly recognizable face? Not exactly. They all loved Enrique, though, and one person even named some of Enrique's dad's song LOL (Julio's duet with Willie Nelson comes to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcfzjWsNAbs << ENJOY!!!
        Originally posted by JHAVIS
        Like it or not Mayweather is a superstar. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be one of the highest paid athletes in sports period. That alone is superstar status.
        This is what I say all the time now. Boxing has dwindled, with the use of PPV especially, to the point that it's greatest stars are unrecognisable to the general public.

        The stars of old (50s and before, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s) were all easily recognised by the general population worldwide. Now, you ask 2000 normal, every day people that have nothing to do with boxing who Mayweather, Pac, Hopkins, Cotto etc are and they will just stand there staring at you.

        Boxing is dying in the ass as a mainstream sport.

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        • tomhawq
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          #64
          Originally posted by Sybian
          hey iceman can u do one for manny pacquiao? i want to know if he is a superstar.
          don't bother, mate. don't bother. pacman aint' bruce lee or jacky chan.

          and i'm a pac fan. hope that helps.

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          • JHAVIS
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            #65
            Originally posted by BennyST
            This is what I say all the time now. Boxing has dwindled, with the use of PPV especially, to the point that it's greatest stars are unrecognisable to the general public.

            The stars of old (50s and before, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s) were all easily recognised by the general population worldwide. Now, you ask 2000 normal, every day people that have nothing to do with boxing who Mayweather, Pac, Hopkins, Cotto etc are and they will just stand there staring at you.

            Boxing is dying in the ass as a mainstream sport.
            I can agree with you. Good, valid points

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            • puga
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              #66
              no doubt but i dont think he's a global supersstar tho.....

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              • markfrombrookly
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                #67
                It's obvious that Iceman doesn't like Mayweather. I sense a little jealousy on his part. To waste his time and poll "average" people? And more people know ENRIQUE? then they do Mayweather? I can understand Jeter but ENRIQUE??? CMON SON lol

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #68
                  I wouldn't call him a classic superstar in that most superstars are well liked and appreciated but in terms of boxing yes he is because he is very well known for a boxer even beyond standard fans for whatever reasons. To me a star is known just in his field a superstar goes beyond and while you could argue degrees of being known Floyd is known beyond his field.

                  Plus I have never met a person that knows even a bit about boxing that doesn't have an opinion on the man.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JHAVIS
                    For these guys at your gym to ask who mayweather is, its obvious they don't watch boxing. If You know Manny, you know Floyd.
                    Exactly.......

                    No way around that.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                      I would say he's a "star"...but a superstar could create pandemonium wherever he goes pretty much...Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson walking into a college dorm in their days would be INSANE, the kids would go crazy...I just wouldnt think PBF would get the same reaction...Ali stopped traffic in Times Square and at Piccadilly Circus in his hey-dey...
                      We are talking about a boxer in 2011 here , its a put down sport to start with and only a few in history have really transcended the sport , Floyd has done pretty good so has Pac , this is the internet age where exposure and hype is at melt down , great fighters can get lost in the crowd today , its not like the old days where a special few were made world icons and the others were never heard off , today its far harder to stand out as the competition in everything is so very much harder , you have many singers that are better singers than Elvis and the Beatles but they were the first greats and that makes them immortals , the world has changed because of the computer age .

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