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  • #21
    Originally posted by _Hisoka View Post
    Even Cotto's win over Zab Judah is better than Marquez's rematch win against Diaz and Katsidis. Yeah, I don't understand how this isn't close...
    No it's not. How's that win better? What made it better? He had gone 2 years without A win going into the bout. He had only fought 1 round(fight ended in a NC) in 14 months going into the bout. And, didn't have another solid win until 3 years later.

    Remember more importantly than who is when. So please explain how's that a better win? Because, you seen more of Judah on TV than Diaz and Katsidis? Is that why?

    And, Judah only has one good win at WW as well. He's not one of the best WWs of the last decade.

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    • #22
      Better resume is not only who you have fought, if that's the case then Mayorga is the GOAT. lol

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      • #23
        Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth View Post
        When you taklk about someone resume what counts is the wins not the losses.

        Miguel Cotto

        Ricardo Torres - 28-0-0
        Paulie Malignaggi - 21-0-0
        Carlos Quintana - 23-0-0
        Zab Judah - Former Undisputed WW Champ
        Shane Mosley - HOF and former P4P #1
        Joshua Clottey - Former WW Champion
        Yuri Foreman - 28-0-0 and WBA Super WW Champion
        Ricardo Mayoraga - Former Undisputed Champion


        Cotto also has names like Corley, Urkal and Maussa.

        Marquez

        Marco Antonio Barrera
        Orlando Salido
        Rocky Juarez
        Joel Casamayor
        Juan Diaz
        Michael Katsidis

        How in the world can anyone pick Marquez?
        ???
        Not trying to start anything but did you really think he won the Clottey fight?

        lol at Yuri/Mayorga.

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        • #24
          I hate when people say resume is who you fought.

          Then Zab Judah, Gatti, Burton etc are ATG's.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            No it's not. How's that win better? What made it better? He had gone 2 years without A win going into the bout. He had only fought 1 round(fight ended in a NC) in 14 months going into the bout. And, didn't have another solid win until 3 years later.

            Remember more importantly than who is when. So please explain how's that a better win? Because, you seen more of Judah on TV than Diaz and Katsidis? Is that why?

            And, Judah only has one good win at WW as well. He's not one of the best WWs of the last decade.
            Judah brought more into the ring, don't think the layoff effected him that much either. Again, I also look at what the fighter brought into the ring, Katsidis is the LW's cum bucket, no offense and Diaz is done in my opinion. That version of Judah had a lot more left in him than those two and even now...he's doing things. Again, I'm talking about the Diaz rematch which was pointless...

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            • #26
              Jmm, by far.

              And he's a better fighter.

              Cotto hasn't been the same since Marg took his soul.

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              • #27
                JMM is a bit overrated. His claim to fame is being owned by Manny Pacquaio. He got utterly schooled by Floyd and had a journeyman special against Katsidis. Yeah he is good but he does get caught a lot with his crafty counterpunching and left looking ****** on his ass in a lot of fights. JMM is good but lets not get too carried away. I like Morales much more as a fighter.

                Cotto will never drink piss like a man who loves ****-flavored water.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by _Hisoka View Post
                  Judah brought more into the ring, don't think the layoff effected him that much either. Again, I also look at what the fighter brought into the ring, Katsidis is the LW's cum bucket, no offense and Diaz is done in my opinion. That version of Judah had a lot more left in him and even now...he's doing things.
                  Why wouldn't you think the layoff would effect him that much?

                  What did that mental midget brought to the ring exactly? It's a 12 round fight not a 4 rounder. So what did the head case bring?

                  Whatever thing you're going to mention about bringing it to the ring. You would think if that was the case then he would have at least ONE, just ONE solid win in a 5 year span. He went 5 years without ONE solid win and he faced Cotto in the middle of those 5 years.

                  And, WTF has Judah done WW? Yea he was "undisputed" but how did he become undisputed? People make it seem like he beat multiple title holders to get those belts. No he has just ONE good win at WW and that was against Cory Spinks who had all the belts(And, Cory Spinks didn't beat multiple title holders to get that either), that's all Judah did at that weight-class is get one good win.

                  And, somehow that's suppose to be a better win? Judah alongside Oscar De la Hoya are the two most overrated fighters in the last 10 years. What did he bring in the ring? Speed and power? What good is that if that mental midget will fall apart 4 rounds?

                  Diaz was a more proven LW than Judah was at WW. Diaz was coming off a win over a top LW. Judah was coming 1 round no contest, inactivity for a year, and a win over a top WW 2 years prior. But, somehow that's a better win.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Ether View Post
                    Jmm, by far.

                    And he's a better fighter.

                    Cotto hasn't been the same since Marg took his soul.
                    Agreed. There is a reason why Cotto has been facing the level of competition he has been facing. Once Cotto gets in there with a top level fighter everyone will see that hes done. (Big fan of Cotto's past fights.)
                    Last edited by koolttt; 04-28-2011, 11:33 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      Why wouldn't you think the layoff would effect him that much?

                      What did that mental midget brought to the ring exactly? It's a 12 round fight not a 4 rounder. So what did the head case bring?

                      Whatever thing you're going to mention about bringing it to the ring. You would think if that was the case then he would have at least ONE, just ONE solid win in a 5 year span. He went 5 years without ONE solid win and he faced Cotto in the middle of those 5 years.

                      And, WTF has Judah done WW? Yea he was "undisputed" but how did he become undisputed? People make it seem like he beat multiple title holders to get those belts. No he has just ONE good win at WW and that was against Cory Spinks who had all the belts(And, Cory Spinks didn't beat multiple title holders to get that either), that's all Judah did at that weight-class is get one good win.

                      And, somehow that's suppose to be a better win? Judah alongside Oscar De la Hoya are the two most overrated fighters in the last 10 years. What did he bring in the ring? Speed and power? What good is that if that mental midget will fall apart 4 rounds?

                      Diaz was a more proven LW than Judah was at WW. Diaz was coming off a win over a top LW. Judah was coming 1 round no contest, inactivity for a year, and a win over a top WW 2 years prior. But, somehow that's a better win.
                      I didn't say all that, all I'm saying is Judah brought more to the ring than Katsidis did against Marquez/ Diaz did against Marquez in the rematch. Judah was a tougher opponent in my opinion. Keep in mind, I'm not that impressed with Marquez's recent run, nor am I that impressed with Cotto's win over Judah. Just telling it as I see it. Yeah Judah's mental strength is meh...but Katsidis and Diaz have holes to their game as well

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