Better Resume, Marquez or Cotto?

[puga]

i think you said you gave JMM the edge 2 years ago before the 3rd and 4th Pac fights (see earlier in the thread). could be a case of mistaken identity, lol.

my memory was good, here it is.

what's the difference between their resume 2 years ago and now ?...exactly , the pacquiao win for jmm..

i did'nt change what i said...

[daggum]

reggie strickland > marquez > cotto

[S. Saddler 1310]

what's the difference between their resume 2 years ago and now ?...exactly , the pacquiao win for jmm..

i did'nt change what i said...

he didn't have that official win 2 years ago, though, which is my point. if he was edging it back then in your opinion, shouldn't a KO win over the ATG Pacquiao have pushed him into a clear lead over Cotto in the resume stakes by now?

[puga]

he didn't have that official win 2 years ago, though, which is my point. if he was edging it back then in your opinion, shouldn't KO'ing the ATG Pacquiao have pushed him into a clear lead over Cotto in the resume stakes?

thats why i said "without the pac ko win" , it's about even... i dont know how i contradicted myself like youre implying

[thatdudespits]

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Im really going to enjoy this...

Juan Manuel Marquez

54-6-1 39KOs

Record in Title fights- 10-4-1 4KOs

Former Champions Faced -14...

Agapito Sanchez (never beat anyone worth mentioning)
Alfred Kotey (lost 4 of last 6)
Freddie Norwood (Loss for JMM)
Daniel Jimenez (Lost 3 of last 6)
Robbie Peden (lost title in 1st defense)
Manuel Medina (lost 2 of last 6)
Derrick Gainer (beat Norwood)
Manny Pacquiao (Marquez lost 2 controversial dec., 1 draw, 1 win by KO)
Orlando Salido (Good win, but Salido had lost a ton already)
Chris John (loss for JMM)
Marco Antonio Barerra (Great Win)
Joel Casamayor (post Corrales, Castillo...however coming off win streak +5)
Juan Diaz (lost 1 of last 5... good win, competitive fight)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for JMM, OWNED)

just for kicks...

Michael Katsidis ( lost 2 of last 5)



Miguel Angel Cotto

37-4-0 30KOs

Record in title fights - 17-4-0 14KOs

Champions faced -17...

Austin Trout (Loss for Cotto, Trout undefeated)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for Cotto)
Antonio Margarito (3 time welterweight champ)
Ricardo Mayorga (lost 3 of last 6)
Yuri Foreman (undefeated)
Manny Pacquiao (Loss for Cotto)
Joshua Clottey (5 straight wins)
Shane Mosley (5 straight wins, last loss to Winky)
Zab Judah (former undisputed WW champ)
Carlos Quintana (undefeated, wins over Joel Julio and Paul Williams)
Paul Malignaggi (undefeated, won straps at 140, 147)
Ricardo Torres (undefeated won strap at 140)
Demarcus Corley (lost 2 of last 6)
Randall Bailey (lost 3 of last 6... multiple time champ)
Lovemore Ndou (won 5 of last 6)
Carlos Maussa (undefeated, beat Vivian Harris for 140lb strap)
Ceasar Bazan (lost 2 of last 6)


you cant argue facts....

Cotto has a better resume

are you done yet?


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Boxrec doesn't always have all the facts homeboy.

Cotto barely squeaked by Clottey in a fight many people thought Clottey won.

Trout is a paper champ, best win before Cotto was Rodriguez, who was never a top jmw.

Mayorga had only fought once in two years before being knocked out by Mosley.

Foreman was another paper champ and never beat anyone worth mentioning.

Quintana had never fought anyone up to that point and has been knocked out everytime he loss. Which made his win over Williams not look that good.

Torres had never fought anyone before he fought Cotto and had Cotto looking like he was going to get stopped.

Corley also had Cotto in trouble and that was one of the worse stoppages I've seen.

Bailey had already been stopped by Hurtado, and lost to Corley and Smith before facing Cotto.

Bazan had been stopped by Castillo three fights before facing Cotto.

And last but not least Maussa. He's another Colomian fighter with a padded record and hadn't fought anyone.

Theres a reason Trout, Foreman, Torres, Maussa, and Quintana were undefeated. They hadn't fought anyone.

Kotey, Medina, Salido, Katsidis and Jimenez weren't all great fighters but they were good and had losses on their records because the were matched tough their careers.

JMM stopped one of the guys that beat the **** out of Cotto. Enough said.

your comment is bias ... if you break down one fighter do the other.... you made a statement with no facts.... they were matched toughly? and cottos opponents werent? lol you people continue to argue facts.

beating Manny Pacquaio makes you the messiah apparently... one win doesnt make up an entire resume... the question is clear, who has the better RESUME.... Miguel Cotto does.


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[thatdudespits]

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JMM got most of the votes back in early 2011, before he moved up from LW. those who thought it was close gave JMM an edge, others said it wasn't even close even at that stage. the only guys making a claim for Cotto were, predictably, Puerto Rican or just random diehards with his image plastered all over their displays.

so what do we think now, gentlemen?

Im really going to enjoy this...

Juan Manuel Marquez

54-6-1 39KOs

Record in Title fights- 10-4-1 4KOs

Former Champions Faced -14...

Agapito Sanchez (never beat anyone worth mentioning)
Alfred Kotey (lost 4 of last 6)
Freddie Norwood (Loss for JMM)
Daniel Jimenez (Lost 3 of last 6)
Robbie Peden (lost title in 1st defense)
Manuel Medina (lost 2 of last 6)
Derrick Gainer (beat Norwood)
Manny Pacquiao (Marquez lost 2 controversial dec., 1 draw, 1 win by KO)
Orlando Salido (Good win, but Salido had lost a ton already)
Chris John (loss for JMM)
Marco Antonio Barerra (Great Win)
Joel Casamayor (post Corrales, Castillo...however coming off win streak +5)
Juan Diaz (lost 1 of last 5... good win, competitive fight)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for JMM, OWNED)

just for kicks...

Michael Katsidis ( lost 2 of last 5)



Miguel Angel Cotto

37-4-0 30KOs

Record in title fights - 17-4-0 14KOs

Champions faced -17...

Austin Trout (Loss for Cotto, Trout undefeated)
Floyd Mayweather (Loss for Cotto)
Antonio Margarito (3 time welterweight champ)
Ricardo Mayorga (lost 3 of last 6)
Yuri Foreman (undefeated)
Manny Pacquiao (Loss for Cotto)
Joshua Clottey (5 straight wins)
Shane Mosley (5 straight wins, last loss to Winky)
Zab Judah (former undisputed WW champ)
Carlos Quintana (undefeated, wins over Joel Julio and Paul Williams)
Paul Malignaggi (undefeated, won straps at 140, 147)
Ricardo Torres (undefeated won strap at 140)
Demarcus Corley (lost 2 of last 6)
Randall Bailey (lost 3 of last 6... multiple time champ)
Lovemore Ndou (won 5 of last 6)
Carlos Maussa (undefeated, beat Vivian Harris for 140lb strap)
Ceasar Bazan (lost 2 of last 6)


you cant argue facts....

Cotto has a better resume

are you done yet?


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just in case you didnt get it the first time....these are facts Cotto's RESUME is better than Marquez


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[Ringlife]

Both solid resume's I can't call it I would have to say its draw Lol.

[Hiei]

your comment is bias ... if you break down one fighter do the other.... you made a statement with no facts.... they were matched toughly? and cottos opponents werent? lol you people continue to argue facts.

beating Manny Pacquaio makes you the messiah apparently... one win doesnt make up an entire resume... the question is clear, who has the better RESUME.... Miguel Cotto does.


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no it just makes you better then cotto

[S. Saddler 1310]

thats why i said "without the pac ko win" , it's about even... i dont know how i contradicted myself like youre implying

because two years ago, before the Pac KO win, you said JMM had a slight edge. so how does he still have only a slight edge after KO'ing Pacquiao?


i'll tell you what. don't worry about it.