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  • #61
    Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
    Please stop embarrassing yourself. FACT is that from 8:30-9PM, aka when Pac's segment was on, 60 minutes scored a 3.3 rating and 14 million viewers. Spin that however you want, but facts are facts.



    I'm just going by guaranteed pay (salaray or purse) as reported by ESPN for 2010, doesn't take into account any bonuses or endorsements. A-Rod and Pac were tied at the top of the list at $32 million earned.




    And if he fights 2x a year... what's the yearly average? Take your time.



    How am I 'butthurt'?

    Just pointing out your fallacious 'logic' when you say Americans don't care about Pacquiao but the FACTS say otherwise. If no one in the U.S. cares about him, no one told his accountant or CBS, ABC, Showtime, HBO, Jerry Jones, Steve Wynn, etc.





    OK.

    Be sure to tune into ABC tonight, CBS primetime on Saturday, 60 minutes on Sunday. Some guy no one's ever heard of or cares about is doing something or other on those networks/programs

    Take it easy bro.
    Don't forget about time magazine nor Harry Reid asking for his endorsement to help win an AMERICAN ELECTION or ***** inviting him to the white house... Yeah because America does not care about Pacquiao... But haters seem to care about how america does though.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
      Please stop embarrassing yourself. FACT is that from 8:30-9PM, aka when Pac's segment was on, 60 minutes scored a 3.3 rating and 14 million viewers. Spin that however you want, but facts are facts.
      http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7032610nBaahahaha it was a 13 minute segment...so yeah...lets assume they are doing 45 minutes of airtime and 15 minutes of commercials roughly 1/3rd of the show would be dedicated to Pacquiao. So you are arguing that if Pacquiao had followed someone other than the President that 14 million people would have tuned it to see Pacquiao? Secondly, even if they changed the channel or tuned out, they still would have registered as having watched the show by the time the Pacquiao interview came on. I am sure most people would finish watching the show however, I always do. Ok let me jot this down. You are predicting that 14 million or more people will watch 60 minutes when Pacquiao is on it this time? 60 Minutes is probably the most popular news show, I watch it occasionally. I am interested to see what numbers it does this time.

      I'm just going by guaranteed pay (salaray or purse) as reported by ESPN for 2010, doesn't take into account any bonuses or endorsements. A-Rod and Pac were tied at the top of the list at $32 million earned.
      Going by that then you are indeed correct...but Tiger Woods and plenty others are the actual "highest paid athletes" in the world. And Endorsements count as yearly earnings and they being paid. So no, Pacquiao isn't the highest paid athlete in the world.

      Just pointing out your fallacious 'logic' when you say Americans don't care about Pacquiao but the FACTS say otherwise. If no one in the U.S. cares about him, no one told his accountant or CBS, ABC, Showtime, HBO, Jerry Jones, Steve Wynn, etc.
      Americans don't care. 60 minutes demographic is old people. I said he isn't that popular here compared to most American athletes and he isn't...I stand by what I said. He isn't even the most well known boxer in the world. He is probably the 2nd most famous though.

      Also this whole "Pacquiao meets *****" thing. The president does photo ops everyday with people. It isn't like ***** wanted to meet with Pacquiao to discuss foreign policy...they shake hands, take some pictures, photo op over.

      Don't forget that ***** met with Floyd long before he ever met with Pacquiao. It is photo ops plain and simple.
      Last edited by Saddlebred; 04-28-2011, 12:51 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Saddlebred View Post
        http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7032610nBaahahaha it was a 13 minute segment...so yeah...lets assume they are doing 45 minutes of airtime and 15 minutes of commercials roughly 1/3rd of the show would be dedicated to Pacquiao. So you are arguing that if Pacquiao had followed someone other than the President that 14 million people would have tuned it to see Pacquiao? Secondly, even if they changed the channel or tuned out, they still would have registered as having watched the show by the time the Pacquiao interview came on. I am sure most people would finish watching the show however, I always do. Ok let me jot this down. You are predicting that 14 million or more people will watch 60 minutes when Pacquiao is on it this time? 60 Minutes is probably the most popular news show, I watch it occasionally. I am interested to see what numbers it does this time.

        Going by that then you are indeed correct...but Tiger Woods and plenty others are the actual "highest paid athletes" in the world. And Endorsements count as yearly earnings and they being paid. So no, Pacquiao isn't the highest paid athlete in the world.

        Americans don't care. 60 minutes demographic is old people. I said he isn't that popular here compared to most American athletes and he isn't...I stand by what I said. He isn't even the most well known boxer in the world. He is probably the 2nd most famous though.

        Also this whole "Pacquiao meets *****" thing. The president does photo ops everyday with people. It isn't like ***** wanted to meet with Pacquiao to discuss foreign policy...they shake hands, take some pictures, photo op over.

        Don't forget that ***** met with Floyd long before he ever met with Pacquiao. It is photo ops plain and simple.
        How can someone blinded by hate see the truth? Your hopeless. check the poll out, without checking I already know where your vote is... That is how obvious you are.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Alibata View Post
          How can someone blinded by hate see the truth? Your hopeless. check the poll out, without checking I already know where your vote is... That is how obvious you are.
          I hate floyd and manny I said it on the 2nd page already.

          Also look at google trends for manny pacquiao compared to other people

          Manny, Tiger, Brett Favre, and Lebron James just in the United States.
          http://www.google.com/trends?q=Manny...ate=all&sort=0

          Pacquiao v Floyd (obv Pacquiao is more popular than that deuche)
          Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather

          Football, Baseball, Basketball, Boxing, UFC
          http://www.google.com/trends?q=footb...ate=all&sort=0of those 5 boxing is the least popular. I stick by my point that boxing virtually means nothing to the united states. Manny Pacquiao included.
          Last edited by Saddlebred; 04-28-2011, 01:16 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Saddlebred View Post
            I hate floyd and manny I said it on the 2nd page already.

            Also look at google trends for manny pacquiao compared to other people

            Manny, Tiger, Brett Favre, and Lebron James just in the United States.
            http://www.google.com/trends?q=Manny...ate=all&sort=0

            Pacquiao v Floyd (obv Pacquiao is more popular than that deuche)
            Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather

            Football, Baseball, Basketball, Boxing, UFC
            http://www.google.com/trends?q=footb...ate=all&sort=0of those 5 boxing is the least popular. I stick by my point that boxing virtually means nothing to the united states. Manny Pacquiao included.
            Yet, when a great contest between two teams is highly entertaining,

            the announcers always say something to the effect of,

            "this is just like a great championship fight in boxing, back and forth they go, beating each other up and we all get to watch until somebody gets knocked out".

            You're point is dull, null and void.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Johnny Chingas View Post
              Yet, when a great contest between two teams is highly entertaining,

              the announcers always say something to the effect of,

              "this is just like a great championship fight in boxing, back and forth they go, beating each other up and we all get to watch until somebody gets knocked out".

              You're point is dull, null and void.
              They say "two heavyweights going at it" they don't say "two junior welterweights going at it with a catchweight." It is called a saying...it has been used for decades. They also say "the ball is in his court now" so does that mean tennis is also hugely popular? I do believe it is your point that is quite menial.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Saddlebred View Post
                I hate floyd and manny I said it on the 2nd page already.

                Also look at google trends for manny pacquiao compared to other people

                Manny, Tiger, Brett Favre, and Lebron James just in the United States.
                http://www.google.com/trends?q=Manny...ate=all&sort=0

                Pacquiao v Floyd (obv Pacquiao is more popular than that deuche)
                Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather

                Football, Baseball, Basketball, Boxing, UFC
                http://www.google.com/trends?q=footb...ate=all&sort=0of those 5 boxing is the least popular. I stick by my point that boxing virtually means nothing to the united states. Manny Pacquiao included.
                Don't matter if you hate floyd.. Fact is you hate Manny and it is no surprise you want to down play manny... You can't see the truth because you are blinded by hate... OR just plain ******.
                Last edited by Alibata; 04-28-2011, 01:29 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Saddlebred View Post
                  They say "two heavyweights going at it" they don't say "two junior welterweights going at it with a catchweight." It is called a saying...it has been used for decades. They also say "the ball is in his court now" so does that mean tennis is also hugely popular? I do believe it is your point that is quite menial.
                  "The ball is in his court", can be used for a variety of sports.



                  lol tennis not hugely popular. That **** is big. Just because you don't watch something, doesn't mean its not popular. Just as with your example of watching Sports Center. So they don't show nightly highlights of boxing, big deal.

                  They have a show dedicated to the sport.

                  You, talking about anyones points being menial, is the funniest thing said in this thread today. And you've said some ridiculously funny ones.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Johnny Chingas View Post
                    "The ball is in his court", can be used for a variety of sports.



                    lol tennis not hugely popular. That **** is big. Just because you don't watch something, doesn't mean its not popular. Just as with your example of watching Sports Center. So they don't show nightly highlights of boxing, big deal.

                    They have a show dedicated to the sport.

                    You, talking about anyones points being menial, is the funniest thing said in this thread today. And you've said some ridiculously funny ones.
                    I play tennis all the time, I am saying it is another sport that has waned in popularity in the USA since the 80s...Boxing and Tennis have both fell off as far as the popularity in the US goes.

                    Ok SportsCenter shows what the american sports fan is interested. Understand? I watch tennis and Friday Night Fights and all the HBO and Showtime boxing. But the average american sports fan doesn't give a damn about any of those. As is represented by the attention given to them on SportsCenter Could.I.Make.Myself.Any.Clearer?
                    Last edited by Saddlebred; 04-28-2011, 01:31 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Hell, horse racing is more popular in the United States than Manny Pacquiao is. Horses have also been on 60 minutes numerous times.

                      http://www.google.com/trends?q=Kentu...ate=all&sort=1

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