Dwyer responds to Al Bernstein, Hammers Pacquiao. Picks Mayweather to destory him....

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  • tomhawq
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    #111
    nothing new. a lot of folks say the same thing, including probably half of pac fans. you'd wonder why his fans defend the obstacles he's put in this fight. i guess they're content their idol winning in fantasy fights.

    i have yet to see floyd's interest and enthusiasm for this fight before taking these floyd beats pac nonsense seriously. but it's too late. fact that he's not even doing anything about it means floyd, the guy who will fight in the ring, yes the guy who knows himself more than any boxing commentator or any clown in this forum, feels that he's going to lose in this fight. his own father feels the same way. nothing will make puking sense.

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    • damned1974
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      #112
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Mayweather didn't win a round up till 5.

      Floyd was too slow to counter Judah, he will be to slow to counter Pacquiao too.
      But somehow Clottey, Cotto, Margarito,etc were all able to hit him...Are you trying to say that they are faster than Floyd? lol

      Floyd is a brilliant counter-puncher,but he also has a brilliant defense that he can set up offence off of...he can initiate a punch,then move while you throw and counter it....he can fight on the inside and counter you all day...It would not be far fetched to say Manny can be countered...especially by Floyd.

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        #113
        Originally posted by TrickyTrickster
        I wouldn't take what Dwyer says as 100% I will always make my own decision,
        But its always good to hear a decent opinion from a guy who makes sure he covers all angles.

        Alot of sports analysis's tend to ignore what they don't want you to know,
        Meaning most of them let there fanboys selves come out and be biased towards who they want to win.

        And I agree with you man on the Ortiz thing, I picked to win aswell.
        Berto just hasn't done anything in his career in my opinion to prove himself as a legit WW.
        People beat Ortiz up over the Maidana fight, Twas a moment of weakness.
        And Berto had nothing to bring to the table to match Maidanas straight right hand in the closing two rounds of that fight.


        True that...

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          #114
          This isn't anything mind blowing. Anyone who's really analyzed this fight and favors floyd would make all these points. I am very much in agreement with every single point made in making the case for floyd. As simple as you can get is IMO is PAC has at most 6 rds to really hurt and deter Floyd. as soon as an adjustment is made PAC will not be able to keep up. Cause fact is he hasn't shown great ability to change up in the middle of fights. A good case can be made for why PAC can beat Floyd. But I do agree volume shouldn't be considered the only reason why PAC can beat him. Volume is one way to best him but you better come with more then just a lotta punches.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #115
            Originally posted by check hook
            Just embarrassing yourself further.......

            Judah had some success, but was shutdown quickly. He won 3 rounds.
            4 out of the first 5 then.

            Lets not forget the 2nd KD that was not counted.

            But the point remain, Mayweather could not counter Judah because of his speed, how is he meant to cope with Pac

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #116
              Originally posted by damned1974
              But somehow Clottey, Cotto, Margarito,etc were all able to hit him...Are you trying to say that they are faster than Floyd? lol

              Floyd is a brilliant counter-puncher,but he also has a brilliant defense that he can set up offence off of...he can initiate a punch,then move while you throw and counter it....he can fight on the inside and counter you all day...It would not be far fetched to say Manny can be countered...especially by Floyd.
              They were not countering him.

              Hope that is clear for you.

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                #117
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                4 out of the first 5 then.

                Lets not forget the 2nd KD that was not counted.

                But the point remain, Mayweather could not counter Judah because of his speed, how is he meant to cope with Pac


                I agree with your main premise. It is harder to time a faster opponent, especially when punches come from the SP angles. However Judah was fighting on the back foot and luring Floyd in. I'm not sure Manny can do that.....though it's not necassarily crucial to him winning.

                I'm just pointing out you are making alot of ****** comments in this thread....the biggest being that Floyd cannot fight inside.

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                • damned1974
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  4 out of the first 5 then.

                  Lets not forget the 2nd KD that was not counted.

                  But the point remain, Mayweather could not counter Judah because of his speed, how is he meant to cope with Pac
                  Actually,out of the first 4 rounds-Judah won rounds 1,2 and 4...after that it was all Floyd.What 2nd KD are you talking about???? The first one was ruled a slip!

                  It is also important to know that Judah fights more sporadic than Manny and is a counter puncher as well...Manny is more predictable.What you see in round 1 is what you will see in round 12... when he isn't doing well enough,he does the same thing,only more of it...he is a pattern fighter.
                  Last edited by damned1974; 04-25-2011, 11:06 AM.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by damned1974
                    Actually,out of the first 4 rounds-Judah won rounds 1,2 and 4...after that it was all Floyd.What 2nd KD are you talking about???? The first one was ruled a slip!

                    Gloved touched down after a punch landed, what would you called it. A clear break for Floyd.

                    Just not quick enough. It would be the same with Pacquiao, Pacquiao would land before Floyd could get off.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      They were not countering him.

                      Hope that is clear for you.
                      Do you think Floyd can only counter? If you think he just counters,you need to watch more of his other fights....He can be the lead or aggresser as well and switch to defense,etc etc...he is far more versatile than you assume.

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