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  • D4thincarnation
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    #141
    Originally posted by -Boxzilla-
    your an idiot if u think floyd would not be able to counter pac ... even if he loses to pac hes going to be able to lay hands on him ... cause everyone does.

    and as for adjustments he has a multitude of them. hes shown that in all his fights that he can fight many different ways. he comes in from rd to rd differently often. he has no rhythm and u never know what to expect. thats why hes so difficult to beat

    He will struggle, the southpaw stance, the speed, the footwork and right hook counter.

    Countering is down to reaction speed the faster the fighter the less time you have to react. If Floyd can't do it against Judah then he fails against Pacquiao.

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      #142
      Originally posted by Chups
      Since the comparison was about Marquez and how Floyd annihilated him in their fight which Dywer made the conclusion. How about this question about the Marquez who fought Floyd. How would that Marquez square up against the Pacman of today? Would it still be drawish? Again...........a 2009 welterweight Marquez versus Pacquiao right now.......how would he fare? Worse than Floyd or better?
      this is a good point ... i think jmm will always have moments when facing pac. but at ww it is a very different fight then it was at 126 and 135. id expect as dominating a fight as floyd had and possibly a stoppage. although its not like id expect something like the margarito fight either.

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      • D4thincarnation
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        #143
        Originally posted by damned1974
        That was up to the ref....he could have DQ'd Judah for intentional fouls that happened BEFORE the riot.....what are you getting at again?

        No, you get warning point deduction and then DQ and thats minimum.

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        • damned1974
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          #144
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          No, you get warning point deduction and then DQ and thats minimum.
          Sure...for an UNINTENTIONAL foul you do get warnings.It's pretty clear that the rabbit punch was deliberate and you can make a strong case for the extreme low blow being deliberate.

          So far you have mentioned Zab winning 3 rounds and Castillo not getting the nod against Floyd....perhaps next you will suggest that if both Castillo and Judah fought Floyd at the same time in one ring,he would have lost-lol

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            #145
            If people want to use a fight that Mayweather won 9 rounds to 3 (Judah) as justification for why Pac would beat him then I am perfectly fine with that. Excellent justification.

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              #146
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              He will struggle, the southpaw stance, the speed, the footwork and right hook counter.

              Countering is down to reaction speed the faster the fighter the less time you have to react. If Floyd can't do it against Judah then he fails against Pacquiao.
              last response from me cause im not going to entertain your lack of knowledge anymore ... theres a big difference between struggling to do something and not being able to do something. i never said it would be easy. but you have no basis on why he couldnt. and he as was able to do as he please with judah after he adjusted so i dont know why u keep bringing that up. he was able to counter. this isnt a one sided kinda fight for either, this is an ebbs and flow fight. end of discussion for me cause u clearly have no idea what your talking about.

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                #147
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                He will struggle, the southpaw stance, the speed, the footwork and right hook counter.

                Countering is down to reaction speed the faster the fighter the less time you have to react. If Floyd can't do it against Judah then he fails against Pacquiao.
                Countering has to do with timing as well.Triangle theories don't work in boxing...
                If this theory was correct,then Hatton should have never gotten TKO'd by Floyd when he didn't even flinch against Kostya Tszyu's punches...

                Now if it is one thing we do know is that Pac is vulnerable to the body...have you seen the body shots that Floyd gave to the southpaws he faced????

                You make it sound as if this is an easy fight for Manny...contrast Floyd with the type of fights Manny has been used to.I am sure Floyd has fought the more versatile opponents of the two.
                Last edited by damned1974; 04-25-2011, 11:55 AM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by damned1974
                  Sure...for an UNINTENTIONAL foul you do get warnings.It's pretty clear that the rabbit punch was deliberate and you can make a strong case for the extreme low blow being deliberate.

                  So far you have mentioned Zab winning 3 rounds and Castillo not getting the nod against Floyd....perhaps next you will suggest that if both Castillo and Judah fought Floyd at the same time in one ring,he would have lost-lol


                  He did lose against Castillo IMO and Judah was too quick for him to counter.

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                  • damned1974
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    He did lose against Castillo IMO and Judah was too quick for him to counter.
                    If you wanna travel that path,Manny should have lost twice to Marquez IMO,but lets stick to facts.....

                    A fighter slower than Floyd countered Manny (so much for your theory of speed is exclusive to countering).....wake me up when the left side of your brain wants to debate logic!

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by TrickyTrickster

                      Dwyer doesn't like what he calls "ambush fighters".

                      Dwyer thinks counterpunchers are the epitome of skill.

                      he is biased towards wifebeater and african americans. his call in this particular fight can and should be ignored.

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