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  • Chopper417
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    #101
    Originally posted by Chups
    Dwyer is biased towards Mayweather and he has picked against Pacquiao several times in the past. He would make great analogies against Pac but comes up short on many aspects.

    The video concentrated on Pacquiao fights and weaknesses but none on Mayweather's. And has mostly based it on 1 opponent which is Marquez which was a long long time ago. How can he explain South Paw Zab Judah getting the better of him in the first half of their fight. It's NOT about how Floyd adjusted midfight but more on Zab's questionable stamina and vigor. Pacquiao a stamina monster will never relent from rounds 1 to 12. Yeah so imagine a faster more innovative Zab Judah that doesn't tire = Floyd's hellhole.

    Would Marquez, even with his straight right hand have a chance against Pac right now?
    haha don't even start that s**t man, Judah didn't win a single round after the the 4th.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Chups
      Dwyer is biased towards Mayweather and he has picked against Pacquiao several times in the past. He would make great analogies against Pac but comes up short on many aspects.

      The video concentrated on Pacquiao fights and weaknesses but none on Mayweather's. And has mostly based it on 1 opponent which is Marquez which was a long long time ago. How can he explain South Paw Zab Judah getting the better of him in the first half of their fight. It's NOT about how Floyd adjusted midfight but more on Zab's questionable stamina and vigor. Pacquiao a stamina monster will never relent from rounds 1 to 12. Yeah so imagine a faster more innovative Zab Judah that doesn't tire = Floyd's hellhole.

      Would Marquez, even with his straight right hand have a chance against Pac right now?
      Cmon man, thats BS.

      You can't put Floyds win over Judah down to Zabs staminas and mental will,
      The adjustments he made where crazy.

      His defence totally changed up, I see a fight with Pac going the same way,
      Thats why I worry I think if Pac hurts Floyd early he will have a much better chance at finished Floyd then Mosley or Judah did.

      Saying that, Floyd probably won't go out feeling his opponents game plan with Pacquiao and then adjusting I think he will go out knowing what he has to do and not take any chances.

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      • MindBat
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        #103
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        Well thats Bobs view not mine.
        So we should take your word over Bob's? He is allowing Manny to fight Shane as we speak.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Chopper417
          haha don't even start that s**t man, Judah didn't win a single round after the the 4th.
          Mayweather didn't win a round up till 5.

          Floyd was too slow to counter Judah, he will be to slow to counter Pacquiao too.

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          • Ko King 212
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            #105
            Zab didn't get tired. Floyd adjusted and frustrated zab from round 4 on. To further prove my point zab tried to do the 52 block jail **** in the middle of the fight. He dam sure wasn't tired doing that **** in the fight.

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            • HighFlyer
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              #106
              Originally posted by TrickyTrickster
              i dont think floyd believes both of you because until now he's scared to death to pacquiao

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              • Ko King 212
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                #107
                I think dudes need to re-watch the zab fight. If you didn't see that the fight turning from round 4 on I don't know what to tell you.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by tyson
                  This match-up is a toss up because each guys strength and weaknesses is potentially playing directly to the other guys strength and weaknesses.

                  Let me show you some examples;

                  -Floyd's philly shell defense is brilliant- in most cases. But against a southpaw like Pacquiao, that particular defensive stance leaves you wide open for two things; straight left hand and right hook.
                  This is why you saw Floyd keep both his hands up against Corley and Judah.
                  Floyd is not particularly effective in this style, mostly because he leans forward and puts himself off balance to the point where he moves rather slow on his feet.
                  Watch the two fights I mentioned for evidence of this.

                  -Pacquiao's punch activity is also brilliant- in most cases. Just not when you face a guy who wants you to throw punches. And Pacquiao throws his punches in rythms, which means he'll throw 1-2-1-2 (left-right-left-right hand) often doing so on the way in.
                  Needless to say, it's rather easy to "read" what's coming next.
                  Pacquiao is a simple fighter, but he's just too fast for most people to stop.
                  Couple that to his over-eagerness to land punches and you have yourself a risky style against a counter-puncher as fast as Floyd.

                  Bernstein and Dwyer has valid and good points, but concluding which one is most right is impossible without seeing the fight first. There are so many potential outcomes of a fight between these guys due to their styles.

                  I actually believe that Manny will be on his toes and firing off 2-3 fast straight punches at a time and then running away if they meet.
                  To me the most interesting part about this match-up would be how Floyd would go about it to slow Manny's feet down, because I believe that it would be in Floyd's favour if they were to stand in front of eachother.
                  The only flaw with your assessment is that Floyd has multiple ways of defense. The Philly shell is his bread and butter but I've seen him implore other ways of defense that were just as effective. For instance, the two fights you referenced were complete blowouts.

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                  • Chopper417
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Mayweather didn't win a round up till 5.

                    Floyd was too slow to counter Judah, he will be to slow to counter Pacquiao too.

                    Mayweather won round 3 on every judges scorecard. You are an idiot and know NOTHING about boxing. Find a new sport to follow, you are just embarassing yourself here.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Mayweather didn't win a round up till 5.

                      Floyd was too slow to counter Judah, he will be to slow to counter Pacquiao too.

                      Just embarrassing yourself further.......

                      Judah had some success, but was shutdown quickly. He won 3 rounds.

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