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  • D4thincarnation
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    #121
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Do you think Floyd can only counter? If you think he just counters,you need to watch more of his other fights....He can be the lead or aggresser as well and switch to defense,etc etc...he is far more versatile than you assume.

    I never said that, my point is if he not fast enough to counter with Judah he will not be fast enough to counter Pacquiao.

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    • damned1974
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      #122
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Gloved touched down after a punch landed, what would you called it. A clear break for Floyd.

      Just not quick enough. It would be the same with Pacquiao, Pacquiao would land before Floyd could get off.
      So...where was that phantom 2nd KD you speak of? I tell you what,go rewatch that fight and meet us back here.

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        #123
        Originally posted by damned1974
        But somehow Clottey, Cotto, Margarito,etc were all able to hit him...Are you trying to say that they are faster than Floyd? lol

        Floyd is a brilliant counter-puncher,but he also has a brilliant defense that he can set up offence off of...he can initiate a punch,then move while you throw and counter it....he can fight on the inside and counter you all day...It would not be far fetched to say Manny can be countered...especially by Floyd.
        clottey, cotto, margarito......floyd beat them all.......in fantasy fights......riight.
        ............you'd think that pac is just too damn easy for floyd.............and floyd would take on a more competitive fight..............like martinez................ gtfoh
        .............all of you........................your opinions are all worth a damn.....makes me puke...........

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        • damned1974
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          #124
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          I never said that, my point is if he not fast enough to counter with Judah he will not be fast enough to counter Pacquiao.
          That's not really accurate though....Judah doesn't fight in as much of a rhythm as Manny.He is more unpredictable with his own counters.

          As I said before,you know what to expect with Manny-completely different fight than Judah would be...doesn't mean easier by any means-just different. Countering Manny would not be impossible-especially when he throws combos.

          Remember,countering is only one tool Floyd has...

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #125


            Check out 2.50

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            • -Boxzilla-
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              #126
              opinions are like assholes so take this as you want ...

              but ive always thought the judah fight has almost no basis in comparing what would happen with pac v floyd. judah and pac are both fast s.paws but thats where there similarities end. they dont fight anything alike. it was already well know u were going to have to walk zab down and break him mentally and physically to beat him. and thats what floyd did and thats why he got hit more by zab until he adjusted. i highly doubt hed fight pac liek that. pac comes to you and leaves more then enuf opportunities to counter. and floyds more then good enuf to take advantage of those openings. the fights wouldnt look anything alike anything like zab fight imo cause floyds not going to be pushing pac back early, if anything id expect him to start doing that in the later half.

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                #127
                Originally posted by pacfan
                clottey, cotto, margarito......floyd beat them all.......in fantasy fights......riight.
                ............you'd think that pac is just too damn easy for floyd.............and floyd would take on a more competitive fight..............like martinez................ gtfoh
                .............all of you........................your opinions are all worth a damn.....makes me puke...........
                ...says the jack-ass named "PACFAN"! haha

                If my opinion is worth a damn,I dread to think of what yours amounts to since you can't even offer a meaningful one here besides sarcasm and "makes me puke"!

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by damned1974
                  That's not really accurate though....Judah doesn't fight in as much of a rhythm as Manny.He is more unpredictable with his own counters.

                  As I said before,you know what to expect with Manny-completely different fight than Judah would be...doesn't mean easier by any means-just different. Countering Manny would not be impossible-especially when he throws combos.

                  Remember,countering is only one tool Floyd has...
                  Please, Manny has great variety and throw shots for weird angles and his superior footwork allows him to create these angles.

                  Judah was just beating Floyd with speed, nothing special

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation


                    Check out 2.50
                    LOL-if that is what you call the 2nd KD,why don't you tell me when the 1st one happened!

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by -Boxzilla-
                      opinions are like assholes so take this as you want ...

                      but ive always thought the judah fight has almost no basis in comparing what would happen with pac v floyd. judah and pac are both fast s.paws but thats where there similarities end. they dont fight anything alike. it was already well know u were going to have to walk zab down and break him mentally and physically to beat him. and thats what floyd did and thats why he got hit more by zab until he adjusted. i highly doubt hed fight pac liek that. pac comes to you and leaves more then enuf opportunities to counter. and floyds more then good enuf to take advantage of those openings. the fights wouldnt look anything alike anything like zab fight imo cause floyds not going to be pushing pac back early, if anything id expect him to start doing that in the later half.

                      Exactly he not going to fast enough to counter and if he tries to walk he down Pacquiao will blast him out.

                      So what does Floyd do?

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