How to beat the Klitchkos!!!

[hweightblogger]

'NUFF SAID... you want to legitimately beat them... this is the ONLY way known to mankind. You have to be a southpaw.. you have to be fast & powerful & look like a golfer. If you don't POSSESS this attribute... yOU PRAY for stamina issues to get the better of them while withstanding there offensive assault on your membrane. If you're tough enough.. it could happen.

There's alaways the proverbial lottery injury & or cut that could have the fight stopped in your favor while completely being outboxed/outclassed.

102 fights.... ONLY 3 possibilities to choose from.... with all 3 NOT having occurred in 7 yrs.
Odds of beating a Klitschko in ANY way shape or form is once every 20.4 bouts... for you mathematicians out there.... every fighter has less than 5% chance to pull off a Klitschko W.

It's even worse: Because this thread is of course how to beat TODAY'S Klitschkos and everyone here knows that Wladimir wouldn't lose against RoCoLa nowadays and Vitali wouldn't lose against Chris Byrd.

Lennox Lewis is your surest bet. However Lennox Lewis is one of the best boxer who ever lived thus Lennox Lewis is a sure bet against anyone.

[SOPH~ REP.]

Pressure ,good head movement and ( A counter punching heavyweight )

[hweightblogger]

Wladimir has KOed more top competition than Vitali, and also beaten the bigger competent opponents. he clearly is more accomplished than Vitali, and Vitali said himself that Wladimir would beat him, regardless of what silly Vitali fans will pretend.

Wladimir is definitely the harder puncher. he has more more brutal KOs than Vitali, who is more of an accumulation puncher.

Exactly!

Additionally Vitali outweighed his KOwins (29:9) whereas Wlad has it approximately 50:50 (25:22).

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[MRBOOMER]

Adam Booth, is that you?

Lol Na man who's that anyway lmao

[jimmy1569]

LOL at the two Klitlicking ******s arguing over who rides the longer short-bus :hahahaha9:

Poet

Well look who's here... hey there's jerk-off over there...come edit that you one dimensional hater!

[Rocky Rode]

dont bother arguing with certain Klitschko fans, theyre awful.

They think Ross Purrity has the greatest chin of all time, Joe Frazier was 'featherfisted', and head movement makes you easier to hit.

I should've listened to this -_- I just got neg repped for a post in this thread by some guy named Klitschko2011 and in the comment section all he wrote was "******ed n.igger"

[jimmy1569]

Before the "KO" that fight was not even. Solis had better defense, Vitali was being agressive but he wasn't being effective... Solis was the only one landing clean punches and he was avoiding all of Vitali's with his high guard, head movement, and legs.

And I do agree with you to an extent. Vitali did cause him to miss. HOWEVER, I'm trying to say if Solis was in shape I don't think his knee would've collapsed...at worse that punch would've been a flash knockdown and I think Solis would've gotten up made adjustments and he would've went on to outbox Vitali.

You obviously disagree and think that it was the punch + Vitali's defense that caused his knee to injure and that's fine. You can think that, I just don't agree with it.

Vitali was coming forward regardless.. he was dictating in the ring. all those punches landed had no effect on Vitali at all. If you watch carefully.. SOLIS was getting nervous when he was backed into the ropes in the final 30 seconds & his aggression to lunge at Vitali like that was fueled by it.. sooner or later Vitali was going to time Solis quick in & out aggression as he was getting tagged by him jumping in & out. He was getting used to the speed.. so what happened in the first 2 minutes doesn't translate to what would've happened for the entire fight. No one will ever outbox Vitali for more than a rd or 2 as Vitali has a way of figuring you out & adjusting on the fly.

Sanders had him retreating in the final 10 seconds of the first rd because his counters were so deceptively fast. Vitali got used to it & his reflexes which are uncanny for a man his size saw to it..that he'd create the proper distance between him & Sanders & be in position to move out of the way. He did the sane thing with Solis & eventually figured out when Solis was going to make a move towards him. Solis was putting himself in harms way as when he's throwing leather.. the high guard defense is NOT in position. What happened to him would've eventually happened during the course of the fight because of the way he leaves himself open after throwing his punches. He had to really commit in order to connect on Vitali.. so he had to be precise when he did it.

It was way tolo easy for Vitali as he was basically swatting a fly that was defenseless. You miss like that drastically & you risk Vitali getting a free shot & counter from close range.. that punch he threw shook Solis' world... it was a shot that was perfectly placed on the side of the head that is the most vulnerable. Solis didn't even know what hit him.. he tried to block it but was way too late in his attempt to do so. He started feeling his head a couple of seconds after the hit where the punch was placed. as he did this.. he fell like a dominoe.. his reaction coincided with the fall. The punch is what caused him to fall in a manner & caused his leg to buckle.

If he would've slipped or fallen wrong... he would've done so before the punch even landed as he was out of position before then.. SOLIS waited for the punch to land before anything happened to him as the worst that was happening to him was that he was off balance with one leg in front of the other because of the missed swing on his retreat back. There's no coincidences in life. Vitali landed the blow that caused the injuries... it was because of Vitali's blow that Solis fell the weay he did.thus injuring himself on the way down. It was as good as a knockout blow even though technically there was an injury during the process. A PUNCH caused it & there was an immediate result unlike a cut that is a work in progress.

[jimmy1569]

1) When you have 1 fight and 1 KO your KOratio is 100%. The less fights you had the easier it is to have a higher KOratio. Wlad had more fights thus he naturally has a lower KOratio.
2) I clearly stated "He leads or is at the top of nearly every KO statistic imaginable". I never stated "In every statistic he is topper than Vitali". In fact in some stats he is topper, in some Vitali is topper.
3) If it makes you happy: Wlad and Vitali are the best KOers in (super)heavyweight boxing history.

It doesn't make me happy because what you're telling me is like in basketball when one team does great against another team. I care about what you do to everybody as a whole.Wlad once had 27 fights only.. he didn't knockout everybody. WLAD at the 44 fight mark had a couple of less KO'S on his ledger. Sure 14 more fights...the chances are greater that as you go along you ko less fighters but even if Vitali failed to KO 4 fighters in his next 14 hypothetical fights the worse he could do is break even. Vitali has NEVER had a futile 14 bout stretch such as this. he's knocked out 12 of 17 fighters since his first 27 bouts.. 2 of these bouts were incomplete bouts due to injuries & 3 went the distance.. with the Briggs bout a stolen KO from him by incompetent ref & a corner that could care less about the welfare of there fighter... so yes it's possible but you go on what has happened thus far & not hypotheticals. No one fighter is always going to have similar bout experience.. so it comes down to what you did in your allotted time. Wlad is close & is very close to runnerup but if i want a KO i go with Vitali first...opposition is in the eye of the beholder. Wlad is defintely runnerup in scorecard ratio.

[jimmy1569]

It's even worse: Because this thread is of course how to beat TODAY'S Klitschkos and everyone here knows that Wladimir wouldn't lose against RoCoLa nowadays and Vitali wouldn't lose against Chris Byrd.

Lennox Lewis is your surest bet. However Lennox Lewis is one of the best boxer who ever lived thus Lennox Lewis is a sure bet against anyone.

I disagree.. Vitali would lose again against Chris Byrd if the same circumstances occurred.. perhaps at this stage in his career he would take the chances with the shoulder. You're making it out to be a legitimate loss that he has to live down... it was an injury & he gave away the W. a SHOULDER injury happening again in the bout is highly un likely.. a cut happening in another Lewis fight is just as unlikely..therefore your blueprint to beat him is shet out of luck & the fact he's a more wexperienced fighter now..more patient is even better at spacing than he was a decade ago.

[jimmy1569]

Exactly!

Additionally Vitali outweighed his KOwins (29:9) whereas Wlad has it approximately 50:50 (25:22).

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Vitali outweighs WLAD by at least 5-7 lbs on the average. a better gauge is the average opponents weight that got knocked out... i'm sure it;s similar. It's a stat that penalizes the bigger bro.