How to beat the Klitchkos!!!

[Joeyzagz]

dont bother arguing with certain Klitschko fans, theyre awful.

They think Ross Purrity has the greatest chin of all time, Joe Frazier was 'featherfisted', and head movement makes you easier to hit.

You forgot these gems:

Its not really a loss if you quit before the fight is over

Its not really a loss if you get injured missing 340 punches.

Its not really a loss if your brother beats him for you

Its not really a loss if you couldnt see the punches coming

Its not really a loss if you simply ran out of gas and couldnt continue

Its not really a loss if it happened when Bush Was US President.

[jimmy1569]

That punch Vitali landed on him didn't even hit him cleanly. It was a grazing punch. That "KO" win had way more to do with Solis' foot slipping than the punch Vitali landed. And the lunging he was doing was genius... Blocking all of Vitali's punches on the outside, then quickly lunging in and hitting him cleanly with his superior handspeed was a great strategy...If only he wasn't so fat his knee might've held up.

An in shape Solis would beat both Klits, IMO.

You must be on Solis' payroll, If his lunge was so genius.. how come he missed by a mile.. i could care less what he did for the first 2:50.. DID NOT WORK IN THE LAST 10 SECONDS OF THE FIGHT... who do you THINK is responsible for making Solis miss so badly? The tooth fairy? He lost his footing because of Vitali's footwork & defense... that's what really happened,, blame something COMPLETELY innocent for it like his excess weight for his misfortune. His weight had NOTHING to do with it.. you want to play the guessing game or what REALLY happened? Vitali caused him to be off balance & then finsished off his balance outright with the punch.

HE WAS responsible for all of it. Vitali's D & then O is what got him the knockout.. anyone who tells you otherwise is full of it. The injuries certainly did happen but Vitali's to blame for it. I could care less if the punch was a harmless slap. (which it wasn't) as replays clearly show Solis head doing a mini bobblehead dance sideways from it.. The truth of the matter & what i'm saying is that Klitschko WOULD'VE EARNED THE KO anyways if there was NO punch involved as it's his defense that was the cause for Solis being off balance.. the punch was just gravy & sealed the deal.

[Rocky Rode]

i could care less what he did for the first 2:50..

Why? Because he was getting outboxed? Because he didn't land a single clean punch? Because Solis landed cleanly on him?

This thread is about how to beat the Klitchkos... I just gave an example of someone doing it for 2:50

DID NOT WORK IN THE LAST 10 SECONDS OF THE FIGHT... who do you THINK is responsible for making Solis miss so badly? The tooth fairy?

The step back caused Solis to miss, but his excess weight is what caused his knee to give out. Not that grazing slap. When Solis hit the canvas the first thing he did was grab his knee...That slap didn't hurt him.

He lost his footing because of Vitali's footwork & defense... that's what really happened,, blame something COMPLETELY innocent for it like his excess weight for his misfortune. His weight had NOTHING to do with it.. you want to play the guessing game or what REALLY happened? Vitali caused him to be off balance & then finsished off his balance outright with the punch.

He lost his balance because he missed a punch...It happens to fighters all the time. Sergio Martinez is constantly missing punches and losing his balance...Heck he's even been knocked down a few times by grazing punches because he was off balance. But his knee doesn't collapse on him...Do you know why?

It's because he doesn't carry around excess weight.

[jimmy1569]

Inflated records mean nothing. Wladimir has beaten more top competition than Vitali, and is faster, harder hitting, and has more boxing ability. Vitali is just more durable.

even Vitali said that Wladimir beats him in sparring and would win if they were to fight.

Lol... at your entire post. Trust me Wlad knows if he gets out of line at the family dinner table... it'll be his ase on a platter! He has all that against him but it's Vitali that is the more difficult to beat of the two... yeah let's go to the inferior resume & comp. Part of fighting at the highest level is being able to hit but to really be special is to be able to take a punch no matter what punch is being thrown at you.. This is where Wlad IS out of his league. Vitali knows how to dish it out but EVEN more importantly knows how to take it. IT SHOWS IN HIS STYLE OF FIGHTING. No one fighter is EVER going to make Vitali HESITANT TO THROW a punch...

You can't say that about Wlad... Trust me if they were fighting each other Wlad would defintely be in fear of Vitali & hesitant to commit to his right hand.. it would be a battle of the jabs but AGGRESIVE vITALI overwhelming his little bro.... no doubt about it given both of there fighting styles & the older brother aspet would definitely be in play. Vitali psycologically knows he can beat up his brother. He's been in kickboxing for years.. he knows how to fight.. WLAD MIGHT BE TECHNICALLY BETTER to look at & throws more orthodox & better looking punches but it's Vitali that can beat you in so many different ways & more variety of punches & how he delivers them from all angles.

[Joeyzagz]

As for Joe... the first 2 great boxers he faced he was on the canvas in the first rd & they were past there primes... all you NEED to know about smokin' Joe & his undefeated status.. VitaLI is 100 TIMES MORE dominant yet he has the 2 L'S on his resume...

Don't cry, jimmy.

A lot of Hall of Famers lose to Lennox. Your boy is in elite company!!

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[jimmy1569]

Why? Because he was getting outboxed? Because he didn't land a single clean punch? Because Solis landed cleanly on him?

This thread is about how to beat the Klitchkos... I just gave an example of someone doing it for 2:50



The step back caused Solis to miss, but his excess weight is what caused his knee to give out. Not that grazing slap. When Solis hit the canvas the first thing he did was grab his knee...That slap didn't hurt him.



He lost his balance because he missed a punch...It happens to fighters all the time. Sergio Martinez is constantly missing punches and losing his balance...Heck he's even been knocked down a few times by grazing punches because he was off balance. But his knee doesn't collapse on him...Do you know why?

It's because he doesn't carry around excess weight.

You're basically aggreeing with everything i said but making excuses along the way.

How to beat a Klitschko for an entire fight.. NOT FOR 94% OF A RD in which he was being stalked & landed & threw fewer punches & the rd was closer to a tossup than it was for Solis. Give me a break already with the weight & that being the reason for his injuries. He's been 50 lbs heavier in a fight & his knees held up fine. Him looking for a homerun.. taking a big swing but striking out is what caused his issues. Vitali was like a pitcher.. he struck him out & did so by throwing at him.. Solis swung & missed & at the same time the ball hit him on his knee caps & he went down & couldn't continue in the ballgame. I HOPE EVERYONE HERE gets the analogy.

Sure lets blame Solis for slipping & then let's blame his weight for NOT being able to handle & brace his fall... let's then discount the incredulous & unorthodox way in which he fell & blame it on the canvas ring which was slightly damp & moist & NOT properly dried down. Let';s blame all of that on SOLIS getting off balance all by himself & catching the right spot on the canvas where it was wet & fell accordingly. VITALI Had nothing to do with the knockout at all..it was all Solis' doing.. his weight..his slip.. all olf it Vitali's featherfists.. probably a breeze would've been more substantial.. VITALI WASN'T in the ring at all in those last 10 seconds. Solis was fighting his shadow & fell... Vitali took Solis to school in those final 10 seconds... if you can;t see it. then you can't see it. I always speak the truth even when i lie,

[StarshipTrooper]

LOL at the two Klitlicking ******s arguing over who rides the longer short-bus :hahahaha9:

Poet

[Rocky Rode]

Before the "KO" that fight was not even. Solis had better defense, Vitali was being agressive but he wasn't being effective... Solis was the only one landing clean punches and he was avoiding all of Vitali's with his high guard, head movement, and legs.

And I do agree with you to an extent. Vitali did cause him to miss. HOWEVER, I'm trying to say if Solis was in shape I don't think his knee would've collapsed...at worse that punch would've been a flash knockdown and I think Solis would've gotten up made adjustments and he would've went on to outbox Vitali.

You obviously disagree and think that it was the punch + Vitali's defense that caused his knee to injure and that's fine. You can think that, I just don't agree with it.

[hweightblogger]

You seem to be over inflating Wlads KO achievements when it's his brother that holds ALL the prominent KO records. Higher KO ratio overall..higher ko percentage of wins BY ko..only heavy to KO his first 27 opponents.. he EVEN has a slight lead (percentage points) over Wlad IN least amount of rds needed per KO after the SOLIS fight.. so most of that other KO stuff you wrote is just regarding SPECIFIC opponents.... IF you want to talk OVERALL opponents & not genre you know which brother to come to>> kapish.

1) When you have 1 fight and 1 KO your KOratio is 100%. The less fights you had the easier it is to have a higher KOratio. Wlad had more fights thus he naturally has a lower KOratio.
2) I clearly stated "He leads or is at the top of nearly every KO statistic imaginable". I never stated "In every statistic he is topper than Vitali". In fact in some stats he is topper, in some Vitali is topper.
3) If it makes you happy: Wlad and Vitali are the best KOers in (super)heavyweight boxing history.

[Steak]

1) When you have 1 fight and 1 KO your KOratio is 100%. The less fights you had the easier it is to have a higher KOratio. Wlad had more fights thus he naturally has a lower KOratio.
2) I clearly stated "He leads or is at the top of nearly every KO statistic imaginable". I never stated "In every statistic he is topper than Vitali". In fact in some stats he is topper, in some Vitali is topper.
3) If it makes you happy: Wlad and Vitali are the best KOers in (super)heavyweight boxing history.

Wladimir has KOed more top competition than Vitali, and also beaten the bigger competent opponents. he clearly is more accomplished than Vitali, and Vitali said himself that Wladimir would beat him, regardless of what silly Vitali fans will pretend.

Wladimir is definitely the harder puncher. he has more more brutal KOs than Vitali, who is more of an accumulation puncher.