Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

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ortiz is just to young and strong for pacquiao. his age alone is the main reason why pac won't fight him.

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Richest boxers:

1. Victor Ortiz
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Floyd Mayweather

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Floyd Mayweather's broke ass is lucky he is being called out by the P4P cash cow, Victor Ortiz. He should jump at a chance like this.

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Who says that Ortiz is not ready? Who says that Ortiz is not deserving? Who saying that Pac shouldn't fight him? Of course Pac should fight him more so than Mosley or Marg, or all these future opponents that I keep hearing like JMM III @ 147, Cotto-Marg winner II, Cintron. Where did I say different?

Fair point, in that case, I completely agree with you

That still doesn't take away that Pac would beat the **** out of him.

LOL @ "Mayweather will almost certainly clean Pac's clock". But, saying Pac would ruin Ortiz is "guesswork"

Really? WTF? Are you guys F'ing ******ed? Stop with your hidden agenda. Don't let your hate for a fighter get the best of you.

Don't be ridiculous man, the common opponent is Pac, how the *** can you compare Mayweather to Ortiz?

Mayweather is much more of a "sure thing" than your "guess" re: Ortiz.

We know May, we know Pac, we do not yet know if Ortiz can take it to another level.

You are kinda ignoring the last 15 years of history there buddy.

What would make Ortiz competitive against Pac? Because, he beat another underachiever? Why are we forgetting that F'ing Berto had him down and hurt? Why are we forgetting that F'ing Maidana made him question his choice of career? Why are we forgetting that this "hungry" kid couldn't finish a fighter who he had down twice early? Yet Pac can't do what F'ing Berto and Maidana did? Not only could Pac do it. But, he would it much worse that it could end Ortiz career. If Maidana could make Ortiz question his career choice. Pac would end it.

Clearly, that is not the same Ortiz..... everybody else can see that, how come you can't?

Right now, Ortiz is on top of his game, which is why that fight will not happen..... but, I bet you will accept Arum's "excuse", whatever that will be.

Doesn't mean that it shouldn't of happen though. Cuz' it should. Pac-Berto should of happened. Even though Pac would have dominated and had him outta there in 6 anyways the fight should have happened. Now this fight should happen it probably won't but it should.

Agreed.

"But, Ortiz can't **** with Pac in the ring. I can't take you serious if you think different"

We are arguing over nothing if you think that Vic is CLEARLY the most deserving potential opponent for Pacquiao, that was my only point.

Your opinon is noted, but I cannot take you too seriously if you cannot see that a blowout is just as likely in a Pac/May fight, as it would be in a Pac/Ortiz fight.

You have no blueprint, because the "new" and "improved" Pacquiao does not fight young, hungry, prime opponents, who are on top of their game.

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"But, Ortiz can't **** with Pac in the ring. I can't take you serious if you think different"

We are arguing over nothing if you think that Vic is CLEARLY the most deserving potential opponent for Pacquiao, that was my only point.

Your opinon is noted, but I cannot take you too seriously if you cannot see that a blowout is just as likely in a Pac/May fight, as it would be in a Pac/Ortiz fight.

You have no blueprint, because the "new" and "improved" Pacquiao does not fight young, hungry, prime opponents, who are on top of their game.

And that was my point some post ago. All the slow, defenseless fighters Pac has been in with that couldn't push him or match his speed. Going up against a young hungry guy like Ortiz with power, stamina and determination wouold probably push Pac to the limits.

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Pac is going to put Ortiz on the shelf if this fight happens I promise ya..What Maidana did to him will have been compassionate in comparison..He needs to fight a Jones or a Karass and leave the big boys alone for a lil while..He is not ready..

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Because, on how vulnerable and flawed he looked against Berto. Becuase, the lack of killer instinct he showed in the Peterson fight. Because, going life and death against a fighter like Maidana. Because, he never ever ever in his whole life fought anybody in the same solar system to the level of Pac.

Maybe that why?

"jfB!tchass" , who's helping you with these names. They seem to "clever" for somebody of your intelligence. Do you have your 8yr old nephew helping you out or something?

It's all me son. Do you see everyone on boxingscene? This shows that "jrnocojones" is looking up to me. How can you compliment me on being clever but stay yelling that I'm not intelligent? You blew up your own spot. thank you for proving my point. You caught the case of the ol envy.

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And that was my point some post ago. All the slow, defenseless fighters Pac has been in with that couldn't push him or match his speed. Going up against a young hungry guy like Ortiz with power, stamina and determination wouold probably push Pac to the limits.

Wow first Berto now Ortiz,jeez who will be the next Hype Job??Ortiz is not ready for Pac..He can't match him with speed,he does not posses any real boxing ability(dude throws one Jab a rd)..Pac would murder this kid and shorten his career what don't you guy's get??Ortiz should fight other young fighters that he can hone his skill against..Pac and or Mayweather abuse him,Pac physical and Mayweather Mentally..

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Ortiz doesn't call the shots


His as.s has to leave GBP or he will not face Pac.

It's not just Arum who despises GBP

It's also Pac

he doesn't want to work with them after they acted like b1tchez

reporting....

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Pac is going to put Ortiz on the shelf if this fight happens I promise ya..What Maidana did to him will have been compassionate in comparison..He needs to fight a Jones or a Karass and leave the big boys alone for a lil while..He is not ready..

Well.... That is possible but we don't know because Pac hasn't fought anyone like Ortiz is a long time. Young combined with strength and determination may be too much for Pac at this stage in his career. I literally can't wait for the Mosley fight to happen.