Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

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Well ****, I mean you put it that way. Then yes you're right. I mean Senchenko is another prime champion. He must have a shot at Pac too.

Such genius logic you're using there Grus. You never fail

You such a F'ing idiot it's quite ridiculous. And, LOL @ the other BS you typed. How old are you? WTF is wrong with you? And, who the **** respects you on this site? Who even knows who you're? You're a nobody man. But, apparently you think you're well respected here. That's fine, if you're life is all about getting respect here and having me on your shadow. Then hey more power to you.

Come on fam. You are the only one sweating me. The only one who claims I'm so ******. You make yourself seem foolio and insecure next to me. It's plain as day and if you wasn't so stannish, you would see what me and everyone else is seeing. Ortiz already got Pac's respect in terms of being a fighter, so what are you talking about.......

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Pacquiao was asked if he remembers the sparring session against Ortiz, which took place when Pacquiao was preparing to challenge lightweight champion David Diaz in June 2008 in Las Vegas; Pacquiao won via 9th-round technical knockout.

"Yeah," he said, laughing slightly and raising his eyebrows as if to suggest it was a rough one. "I was 135 fighting with David Diaz. It was good, he's strong. That's why I picked him to win the fight (against Andre Berto). I talked to Ortiz before the fight and gave him some advice that he can use for the fight."

And life is about respect and if you ever got some you would know how important it is to give and get it..... sucker.

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If Ortiz got his way and fought Manny, he would be looking for the nearest exit after 4 rounds, if he even lasted that long.

In my eyes Ortiz is still just a prospect who outlasted another prospect in a great fight. Some of you need to keep yourselves grounded here.

He still shows a ton of vulnerabilities that can be exploited easily by guys like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley or Cotto.

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Come on fam. You are the only one sweating me. The only one who claims I'm so ******. You make yourself seem foolio and insecure next to me. It's plain as day and if you wasn't so stannish, you would see what me and everyone else is seeing. Ortiz already got Pac's respect in terms of being a fighter, so what are you talking about.......

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And life is about respect and if you ever got some you would know how important it is to give and get it..... sucker.

Oh is about Pac respecting Ortiz. Well **** Pac respects the hell out of Mosley. I guess Shane has a hell of a shot to beat Pac as well.

WTF?

Just STFU.

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Ortiz looked really good against Berto, that being said, Pac is far from a Berto caliber fighter. Ortiz will likely look like a totally different fighter against Pac.

Mayweather may come out of retirement to challenge Ortiz and after he wins, he will retire again.

Maybe Pac would or would not whup Ortiz but that is yet to be seen. Pac won't fight him anyway. He is not a Top Rank fighter. I think that the fight would be a good one. Berto hit Ortiz with the hammer in the 6th round and he still knocked Berto down. Pac is more seasoned for sure but homie been fighting against wounded guys. Put someone hungry in the ring with him then we will see a fight for sure.

[jrosales13]

"Khan??? like Khan is as hot as Ortiz is, like he brings in as much money than the cash cow Victor Ortiz who's worth $100Mill?...keep making me laugh Kev, go watch baseball and Jersey Shore...you don't know what you're talking about, Khan being smaller than Ortiz, Khan is huge WTF is your problem, Ortiz is the best fight out there, he'll be Floyd's biggest pay day since Oscar De La Hoya and the smallest fighter he has ever fought since Sharmba Mitchell "

Ummm....Yea....

So this is what you do?

Do you want to talk about baseball or the Jersey Shore just even things out a bit?

It's obvious that you're out of your dept right now.

[buckdacious]

Bring on Pacman vs Ortiz !!

Maidana was nothing, compared to what Pacman will do to Ortiz face in many rounds.

So, Ortiz will say this after he quits :

"I'm young, I don't deserve to have my face rearranged by an old man ! I'll take my money and run. I'll just wait for him to retire and I'll come back again."

Arum calls the shots, unless Ortiz goes to Pacman himself to beg for a 3million dollar fight.

Arum does call the shots and thats why hes fighting an old Mosley, Margarito cheating ass, and Clottey after he lost to Cotto!! Great job Pacman and Arum

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Oh is about Pac respecting Ortiz. Well **** Pac respects the hell out of Mosley. I guess Shane has a hell of a shot to beat Pac as well.

WTF?

Just STFU.

Ortiz roughed Pac up in sparring and that's where the respect comes from "jrB!tchass". Pac didn't even say he would fight him but instead said "I don't know". why shouldn't I think Ortiz has a shot?

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Jrosales list of what Mayweather can earn fighting each of these fighters:

Guerrero: $200-300k guaranteed...conclusion: Low risk but not a high reward.


Bradley: $600k guaranteed...low risk, not a high reward.


Maidana: $800k guaranteed...low risk, not a high reward.


Khan: $2mill guaranteed. low risk, not a high reward.


Ortiz: $40Mill guaranteed, 80-20 split...ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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You do realise that Pac often toys in sparring, testing things. There are videos of him getting bullied at times by Benavidez Jr...

That's how Pac learns.

If Berto and Maidana could drop Ortiz like that, and the pressure from Peterson mad him back off, then trust me, Ortiz is getting KTFO by pac.

Ortiz is a fighter who relies on breakig someone down and KO'ing them. If it lasts then he backs off... Now he aint no way gonna ko mayweather or Pac, and he aint gonna enjoy getting hit by either.

Ortiz will get ****ed up by both easily. It is already stated that he has quit in the amateurs too when things don't go his way.

Can Ortiz win 7 rounds VS Pac or Mayweather? Not in my eyes.

Berto is a decent fighter, but so flawed. In fact Bradley for me has the best chance VS the top 2.

Maybe Pac will tax Ortiz or maybe he won't but will never know because Pac ain't fighting winners. On top of that, Ortiz is younger. A no no for Pac.

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Arum does call the shots and thats why hes fighting an old Mosley, Margarito cheating ass, and Clottey after he lost to Cotto!! Great job Pacman and Arum

My main peoples Buckdacious! What's good homie? You still on ESPN? I have to visit more often.