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  • jrosales13
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    #121
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    Ortiz roughed Pac up in sparring and that's where the respect comes from "jrB!tchass". Pac didn't even say he would fight him but instead said "I don't know". why shouldn't I think Ortiz has a shot?
    Because, on how vulnerable and flawed he looked against Berto. Becuase, the lack of killer instinct he showed in the Peterson fight. Because, going life and death against a fighter like Maidana. Because, he never ever ever in his whole life fought anybody in the same solar system to the level of Pac.

    Maybe that why?

    "jfB!tchass" , who's helping you with these names. They seem to "clever" for somebody of your intelligence. Do you have your 8yr old nephew helping you out or something?

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    • -Spinal-
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      #122
      Money Victor Ortiz is on top of the world right now. One fight made him worth more than Khan, Maidana, Bradley, every one. He is now the 3rd richest active boxer, and poses the lowest risk out of all. I don't know why Mayweather doesn't jump at the chance of a lifetime vs Donald Trump's adopted son Victor Ortiz.

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      • -Spinal-
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        #123
        Attention!

        Forbes list of billionaires.


        1. Carlos Slim
        2. Bill Gates
        3. Victor Ortiz

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        • jrosales13
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          #124
          Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
          Jrosales list of what Mayweather can earn fighting each of these fighters:

          Guerrero: $200-300k guaranteed...conclusion: Low risk but not a high reward.


          Bradley: $600k guaranteed...low risk, not a high reward.


          Maidana: $800k guaranteed...low risk, not a high reward.


          Khan: $2mill guaranteed. low risk, not a high reward.


          Ortiz: $40Mill guaranteed, 80-20 split...ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!
          Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
          Money Victor Ortiz is on top of the world right now. One fight made him worth more than Khan, Maidana, Bradley, every one. He is now the 3rd richest active boxer, and poses the lowest risk out of all. I don't know why Mayweather doesn't jump at the chance of a lifetime vs Donald Trump's adopted son Victor Ortiz.


          Awww...Kev is this how you act when your feelings get hurt? My bad man, sometimes I forget you just a teenager. It's OK sweetheart I will leave you alone OK?

          Go ahead and keep posting.

          F'ing sissy...

          smh.

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          • GRUSTLER
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            #125
            Originally posted by PakistaniKiller
            You dumb ****, I already told u they pay people to spar, they use them to learn. You hear that Peteson rougjed up Mayweather os sparring? Well sparring is what they use to learn, not just battle.

            With headgear, Ortiz is safe, he doesn't get hurt, however he aint dropping Pac, and Pac can easily drop him.

            Ortiz doez not like to get hit, and he will face a guy in Pac who is faster than him, hits harder than him, and comes in at all angles with a high ass work rate.

            Ortiz will quit.
            Ok so Pac letting Ortiz rough him up in sparring was just for fun but in the article when asked about the Ortiz sparring session Pac had a look on his face like whoah? Give Ortiz his credit son. Ortiz got up from a hammer and still knocked Berto down. I wouldn't count him out from here on if he is really focused and hungry. Maybe I wouldn't be questioning Pac if he would have fought somebody who has won or looked great in his last fight.

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              #126
              Originally posted by jrosales13


              Awww...Kev is this how you act when your feelings get hurt? My bad man, sometimes I forget you just a teenager. It's OK sweetheart I will leave you alone OK?

              Go ahead and keep posting.

              F'ing sissy...

              smh.
              At the bold, going back to your ******* tendencies, don't start singing Manny Pacquiao songs now Jro, this is not the time.

              And WTF? Not cool dude, I am agreeing with you man. Just cause you're 40 years old, doesn't mean you have to see people in there 20s as teenagers.

              I have finally give in to you, you are right, Victor Ortiz vs Floyd Mayweather Jr will be the richest fight, even moreso than DLH-Mayweather, AND, and, and, it's low risk.

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              • buckdacious
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                #127
                All I know is Otiz would have a shot for the first 3-4 rounds but after that Pacs skill kicks in. PPL FAIL to realize that pacquiao really doesnt have defense and Ortiz has heavy hands. Ortiz could possibly be the hardest puncher Pac has ever faced

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by PakistaniKiller
                  You dumb ****, I already told u they pay people to spar, they use them to learn. You hear that Peteson rougjed up Mayweather os sparring? Well sparring is what they use to learn, not just battle.

                  With headgear, Ortiz is safe, he doesn't get hurt, however he aint dropping Pac, and Pac can easily drop him.

                  Ortiz doez not like to get hit, and he will face a guy in Pac who is faster than him, hits harder than him, and comes in at all angles with a high ass work rate.

                  Ortiz will quit.
                  I believe that Pac can drop Ortiz but Ortiz can get up and drop him too. Your talking like Pac is KO'n guys with one punch or something? Pac damage is done with accumulation not power. Ortiz showed he can take power shots and keep coming. Your talking like it would be a walk in the park for Pac if Ortiz showed the same heart as he did against Berto. Not saying Pac would lose but not saying he would win either. Ortiz has a shot. Them uppercuts was fierce as well. Berto thought Ortiz was going to quit too.

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                  • flint
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                    #129
                    against ortiz at 147. pac gets tagged big time. ortiz is not young,shot and can't be weight drained. pac has no jb,no defense. just foot work speed and power. it won't be enough.ortiz beaten him good in sparring and will hand pac is steroid filled big head to him at 147.simple and plain

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by PakistaniKiller
                      OK since you finally replied to me, I take the swearing back. My bad.

                      There is no maybe about pac tagging Ortiz. Ortiz gets tagged, that's how he is. He has a suspect chin, and worse, his mentality.

                      He wasn't even upset after the draw with Peterson...

                      As for Pac not fighting him, who knows, but I do not see Ortiz that good yet. Again Bradley is the mN who has the chin, workrate and style to pose a problem.
                      Ortiz relies on breaking guys down, and you simply can't break Pac or May down.
                      Bradley/Ortiz would be a good one.

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