Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

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Listen and maybe you will hear me. I didn't even mention Floyd. I was talking about Ortiz fighting Pac. Pac fans mentions Floyd ALL THE TIME. Floyd is not even on my top fighters list until he comes back. I'm over it. I see that you through in Martinez as someone Floyd should fight but the great Manny Pacquiao said he was too small to fight Martinez, then retreated back to 147. Atleast he had the courtesy to give back the vacant Sergio Martinez title he won at a catchweight against and unranked fighter and now tries to put on his list that he won at 154. Pac is a fraud. You call the match against Clottey a fight? Ok, whatever suits you. Margarito/Cotto? Floyd would have fought them but Arum dropped the ball. Should I post that link and article as well? Pac was the real chicken for second guessing the tests demands and walking away when they had Floyd at the table. On top of that. You expect me to believe that Pac wants to take the tests and fight but the lawsuit is still on and poppin? B.S. I bet someone says, "it's different from the court and negotiations" no it's not bebcause if Pac is ready for it then he should drop the demand and do it forreal. Why would I fight a person that is suing me in court? You don't sue people you want to get money with. Maybe that works in your world but not the real one.

All this Floyd is scared to fight is bull**** consider Pac walked away when the fight was damn near a reality. Go sell that **** to someone else about Pac wanting to fight because it ain't true. Tell Pac to walk his baby nuts up to Bob Arum and tell him that I don't care if you hate Floyd or Golden Boy because I want the fight. Arum has made deals to make fights in a matter of hours if not less and you are trying to tell me that he can't make this one happen? 100Mil is a ridiculous price and if you show me where Floyd said it "himself" then I will **** on him too. Boxing has had some great fights and upsets and none of them have included Manny or Floyd so whatever with them.

I can feel the estrogen coming from this post Grus... be easy.

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I can feel the estrogen coming from this post Grus... be easy.

Nah fam. I'm not mad at all. I'm just stating the obvious. I was ridiculed on this thread specifically and disrespected for my opinion. Just had to prove that what I'm talking about is what it is. I posted and said enough. I'm done.

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Happy Easter all......................


btw, GRUSS much respect to you my man! Always representing the "sport". We need more posters like you. Knowledgeable, respectable, strategically opinionated with facts that compliment but more importantly a professional poster with a passion for the sport of boxing!

Thank you Wess. Appreciate your words and respect. Happy Easter to you as well.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Nah fam. I'm not mad at all. I'm just stating the obvious. I was ridiculed on this thread specifically and disrespected for my opinion. Just had to prove that what I'm talking about is what it is. I posted and said enough. I'm done.

Just so ya know Ortiz don't belong in the same arena as Pac bro..Let Ortiz beat another Opponent at WW,hopefully he does..Also get ya point across without hating on Pac's resume which is a impressive one..It takes away from the point you are trying to make imo..But you are a good poster Grus,but I have to admit some of your post comes off as hate towards Pac..

[LeadUppercut]

and lastly, just a piece of advise even if you don't need this... stop living in the past like Pac Floyd's decemeber nego Because it is all history... everybody knows that Floyd does not want to Fight Pac (Maybe for now) AFTER THE Mosley fight last year... never heard of the supposed to be 2nd Nego? never heard about Floyd's rant and making noise ONLY AFTER a confirmed fight Between Pac - Margo n Pac Shane??? case closed...

Don't be so ****** jltsmae

What a truly ridiculous thing to say.

FACT: there has only ever been one official negotiation

FACT: that negotiation broke down because Pac would not agree to random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde..._report_t.html

Give yourself an uppercut for attempting to re-write history you flag-waving clown.

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Damn nobody ever answered you,I guess they just want to believe ortiz has a better resume at 147lb without ever having fought there..

It's only one pound, and Cotto weighed 146 vs Clottey

Oh damn, that's right I forgot, there are different rules for Pac.

True, you are correct

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Grus and Lead I'm shock at you guys,you guys turned a thread about Manny vs Ortiz into a Pac discredit convention..I tried to avoid this for the longest in this thread but I guess you guy's true intent here is to bash Pac..I told ya you guy's seemed like the one's with the agenda,I think I was right...

romey, your list of more suitable applicants for Pac, was a truly weak effort.

You OBVIOUSLY have an agenda.

It is a joke that you picked Judah over Ortiz, obviously you have an important reason for not wanting Vic anywhere near Manny.

It is also a joke that you seem to think it is more important for Vic to "step-up" against Karass than for Pacquiao to fight the next best cab off the rank.

It is what it is.

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Sorry, but what I see before me, is a forum full of weak-knee'd flag-wavers.

Ortiz has really got you all that shook ?

You clowns screamed for Martinez to fight Pirog, then along came Ishida

FACT: Berto was the #3 welter

FACT: Ortiz is NOW the #3 welter

FACT: there is no better opponent for the #1 and #2 welter's, than #3

So, Martinez is a "coward" for ducking a green kid who has never fought a top-20 opponent..... and yet Pacquiao should not have to fight the next best guy in his division, even though it would be the first live dog in his last 7 fights?

That's a bunch of weak knee'd fanboy's right there

Man, I am so glad that my guy is a genuine P4P fighter who will fight anyone anywhere anytime..... imagine having to spend my life making excuses for a hype-job

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Just so ya know Ortiz don't belong in the same arena as Pac bro..Let Ortiz beat another Opponent at WW,hopefully he does..Also get ya point across without hating on Pac's resume which is a impressive one..It takes away from the point you are trying to make imo..But you are a good poster Grus,but I have to admit some of your post comes off as hate towards Pac..

If wanting Pac to show why he is the P4P best is coming off as hate then so be it. I posted links and facts that back up that I am not the one that started this against Pac because mostly his own camp exposed him. Rome, you are good with me but I know that I don't hate Pac, I just don't approve of what him and Arum are doing in the sport of boxing which is sooo obvious.

[tomhawq]

If wanting Pac to show why he is the P4P best is coming off as hate then so be it. I posted links and facts that back up that I am not the one that started this against Pac because mostly his own camp exposed him. Rome, you are good with me but I know that I don't hate Pac, I just don't approve of what him and Arum are doing in the sport of boxing which is sooo obvious.

you need to at least be consistent. if you keep saying pac's wins are nothing but cherrypicked fights, then the ****** ost should be useless.